Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE) / en Podcast: The modern grid: the intersection of energy and the environment /news/2025-10/podcast-modern-grid-intersection-energy-and-environment <span>Podcast: The modern grid: the intersection of energy and the environment</span> <span><span>Sarah Holland</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-10-20T11:00:33-04:00" title="Monday, October 20, 2025 - 11:00">Mon, 10/20/2025 - 11:00</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><div class="align-left"> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2025-10/25-366_aep_graphics_ep_cover.jpg?itok=C4mXuxqO" width="350" height="350" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <p class="Paragraph SCXW53314034 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun intro-text" lang="EN-US">“Infrastructure” is one of those words that can mean a lot of different things to different people. At George 鶹Ƶ, we’re focused on infrastructure in terms of sustainability – how can we help innovate new systems for the world’s infrastructure that will be resilient and flexible enough to support a changing world.</span><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p> <p>On this episode of Access to Excellence, President Gregory Washington is joined by two guests working at the intersection of innovation and sustainability to develop George 鶹Ƶ’s capabilities as a living laboratory for students, faculty, and staff to find solutions to our grand challenges: <a href="https://volgenau.gmu.edu/profiles/lhuang20"><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Liling Huang</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, associate professor of electrical and computer engineering in the College of Engineering and Computing and the Dominion Energy Faculty Fellow in Power and Energy Systems, and </span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/leah-nichols/"><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Leah Nichols</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, executive director of the Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE) in the Office of Research, Innovation, and Economic Impact. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p> <blockquote><p class="Paragraph SCXW53314034 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">The living lab, what I see, it's beyond the lab. It is a living community, a living society. We can have students actually have...a model startup to run this community, to run the lab, to collect the data, and then to hire students to be the operator. So I think this is even beyond lab, and it also brings in multidisciplinary collaboration between engineering, science, business and policy. – Liling Huang&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun EOP" lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p> </blockquote> <blockquote><p><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun EOP" lang="EN-US">We are now experiencing more intense storms, greater and longer durations of heat, shifts in seasonal patterns. However, a lot of our infrastructure was built decades, if not centuries ago...And so there's vulnerabilities, and we need to start accounting for how the changing climate and the information that we're receiving now about how the ecosystems are working and the physical systems are working into managing the infrastructure and the systems that comprise communities...Identifying opportunities to make changes to ensure that our systems are sustainable and can withstand the consequences or the more extreme weather and the different weather and climate effects that we're experiencing now is really important. </span><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">– Leah Nichols</span></p> </blockquote> <p><span class="TextRun SCXW53314034 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"></span></p> <iframe style="border-style:none;height:150px;min-width:min(100%, 430px);" title="The modern grid: the intersection of energy and the environment" allowtransparency="true" height="150" width="100%" scrolling="no" data-name="pb-iframe-player" src="https://www.podbean.com/player-v2/?i=ttces-199b518-pb&amp;from=pb6admin&amp;share=1&amp;download=1&amp;rtl=0&amp;fonts=Arial&amp;skin=f6f6f6&amp;font-color=auto&amp;logo_link=episode_page&amp;btn-skin=7" loading="lazy"></iframe><p></p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:mason_accordion" data-inline-block-uuid="0333ef57-925b-4820-a1a6-dc61fa0ea8d7" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blockmason-accordion"> <div class="field field--name-field-accordion-rows field--type-entity-reference-revisions field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field field--name-field-accordion-rows field--type-entity-reference-revisions field--label-hidden field__item"> <section class="accordion"> <header class="accordion__label"><span class="ui-accordion-header-icon ui-icon ui-icon-triangle-1-e"></span> <p>Read the transcript</p> <div class="accordion__states"> <span class="accordion__state accordion__state--more"><i class="fas fa-plus-circle"></i></span> <span class="accordion__state accordion__state--less"><i class="fas fa-minus-circle"></i></span> </div> </header> <div class="accordion__content"> <p>Intro (00:04):<br>Trailblazers in research, innovators in technology, and those who simply have a good story: all make up the fabric that is 鶹Ƶ, where taking on the grand challenges that face our students graduates in higher education is our mission and our passion. Hosted by 鶹Ƶ President Gregory Washington, this is the Access to Excellence podcast.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (00:26):<br>Infrastructure is one of those words that can mean a lot of different things to different people. At George 鶹Ƶ, we're focused on infrastructure in terms of sustainability: how we can help innovate new systems for the world's infrastructure that will be resilient and flexible enough to support a changing world. And we're not just talking theory here. My two guests today are at the intersection of innovation and sustainability to develop George 鶹Ƶ's capabilities to be a living laboratory for students, faculty, and staff to find solutions to our pressing grand challenges. Liling Huang is an associate professor of electrical and computer engineering in the College of Engineering and Computing, and she's the Dominion Energy Faculty Fellow in Power and Energy Systems. And Leah Nichols is the executive director of the Institute for Sustainable Earth, or ISE. It is in the Office of Research Innovation and Economic Impact. Leah, Liling, welcome to the show.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (01:37):<br>Thank you.</p> <p>Liling Huang (01:37):<br>Thank you.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (01:40):<br>Liling, your work focuses on securing the nation's critical energy infrastructure. Can you tell us a little more about what this means and why it's important?</p> <p>Liling Huang (01:53):<br>Energy is a backbone of our national security, our economy, sustainability, our community trust. So without the energy we cannot have data flow, we cannot run hospitals, we cannot run data centers. So it is very, very critical infrastructure for our modern life.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (02:17):<br>So what kind of threats do you see that our energy and infrastructure face?</p> <p>Liling Huang (02:23):<br>Our infrastructure is facing many challenges, uh, including the aging infrastructure. Our energy infrastructure was built more than a hundred years ago. It is aging and needs to be modernized. We also facing challenges of cyber physical attacks, we also facing challenges of the workflow shortage, the supply chain shortage, the challenge of incorporating the renewable energy into the power systems.<br>President Gregory Washington (02:54):<br>I see. Have we taken some major steps as a country or as a region to secure our energy infrastructure?</p> <p>Liling Huang (03:02):<br>Yes. I think the public private sector are working together along with the government to secure the energy infrastructure by upgrading our infrastructure, investing in workforce development, uh, as well as bringing a more diverse energy portfolio to the system.<br>President Gregory Washington (03:24):<br>Well, that's more easily said than done, right? When you start to talk about diverse energy portfolio, that could be many other diverse energy pieces bring their own set of problems, right?</p> <p>Liling Huang (03:36):<br>Yes, exactly.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (03:38):<br>So one of iscs key programs is 鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab. And that whole entity aims to stimulate and support the development of research and scholarship that use the campuses and their physical and social ecological structures for implementation in education. And that framework seems to be working really well. Leah, can you tell us more about how this initiative came about?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (04:03):<br>Sure. Happy to. I came to 鶹Ƶ about five years ago to to run the Institute for a Sustainable Earth. And a core mission of the institute is to help put research into practice. So the campus itself is effectively a small city. There's over 48,000 people on the campus, a population that that utilizes the campus, some of whom live here. It embodies all of the different types of infrastructure systems that are required to support and maintain that population. So it's an ideal microcosm with which to engage, to study the socio-environmental technological ecosystems that make up this small city. And then it's also a microcosm within which we can develop solutions, test solutions, use it as a test bed, create some demonstration projects that could then be scaled into solutions in communities elsewhere and around the globe. So it was my first target to create opportunities to put research into practice.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (04:54):<br>I reached out to Dr. Greg Farley, who's the director of sustainability, and he and I really jived on this idea. We really liked this idea and wanted to lean into it. So we looked at what all was going on already on campus and how faculty and students were utilizing the campus for research. Um, and learned that there was a lot going on. Our faculty are innovative and they wanna see their research put into practice. Um, but all of those projects were being, being done on an ad hoc basis. The wheel was being reinvented over and over again. And so Greg and I put our heads together along with Frank Strike, vice president for, uh, facilities and operations, campus operations, and Andre Marshall, vice president for research, to really develop a program that standardized protocols that effectively built a bridge between the research community and the facilities and operations communities. So this type of research activity could go on much more smoothly, be amplified. We also created a data sandbox to capture the data that was being collected about the university so that it could be shared across units with others who are interested in, in similar sorts of research projects.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (05:57):<br>Well, let's talk about scale and, uh, be a little more pragmatic. Can you gimme an idea of what kinds of projects have gone through this process? You know, just talk high level in terms of what they are and what they, what they're supposed to do.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (06:12):<br>They do range and scale, and we have provided seed funding to, to support some new projects. Uh, they and those typically are on the order of, you know, tens of thousands, um, or so to support students and faculty who are getting ideas off the ground. Some of them are very large projects, not ones that we supported, but ones that we definitely amplify as the, that are international recognized arboretum, which has a massive amount of data about the trees on campus. Um, and like I said, internationally recognized, but we also supported very smaller scale projects. One of our very first ones that came through the new program is the Cherry Blossom Monitoring. And the math department has stood up a, a global competition where they're working with students who, um, to do statistical analysis to predict when the cherry blossoms are gonna bloom here in DC at 鶹Ƶ, I think in Japan, there's a couple of other international sites.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (07:04):<br>It's, it's, it's now taken on a life of its own, but we were able to put in place working with facilities, cameras to monitor the, the, the blooms there. We also have a small project that we just funded this year that I'm, I'm quite excited about. Dr. Changwoo Ahn is taking on analysis of a corner of the campus that used to be an intermittent wetland. It's now turning into, um, a permanent wetland. And that transformation process is something that's not well studied. Um, so it creates opportunities there, but it's also of interest to the, the campus operations. Understanding this change process will help them better manage the, the wetlands and the ecosystem that's, that's emerging in this space. So, very exciting.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (07:42):<br>So Liling?</p> <p>Liling Huang (07:43):<br>Yes.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (07:44):<br>While your smart grid lab is independent from ISE, if I'm not mistaken, right? The project is working towards a similar goal. Right? So we got two living lab concepts. So talk to me about each one of you. What does it mean to be a living lab?</p> <p>Liling Huang (08:03):<br>To me, a living lab, it is the platform to close many, many gaps between the industry and academia, within the academia, between the students, the faculty, the staff. It's, it is a platform can bring everybody together as a community, and especially at 鶹Ƶ to achieve education and research.<br>President Gregory Washington (08:31):<br>Talk a little bit about how the project support experiential learning of our students.</p> <p>Liling Huang (08:37):<br>It's bring our student, uh, career ready and build their teamwork problem solving, and it builds their confidence because they operate, they experience that they bring the theory into practice. I think it's very, very important to our students, not only to recruit, but also to retain and to advance. And I think it also will put 鶹Ƶ as a leading position in all the aspect. It's a very, very important tool for, for 鶹Ƶ and for our students.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (09:15):<br>I would agree. Uh, a lot of faculty do take their students out of the classroom and utilize the ecosystems, the campus grounds to gather data. And while their students are learning about the tools and the data collection methods and the analytical methods for studying these types of systems, and, you know, with our lab. But we're hopeful we, we have some faculty who are already feeding this data that their, their students are collecting in courses into the data sandbox that starts to create a longitudinal data set of, um, similar sorts of data collection, um, over time. But the more that we can get, um, and encourage our faculty to get our students out utilizing the campus to develop their research skills, to develop their understanding of, of socio-environmental system theory, et cetera, is, is really exciting.</p> <p>Liling Huang (09:56):<br>And to me, I think the, the living lab, what I see, it's beyond the lab. It is a living community, uh, living society. We can have student actually have a startup, a model startup to run this community, to run the lab, to collect the data, uh, and then to, to hire student, to be the operator. So I think this is, uh, even beyond lab, you know, like, and it, it also bridge, uh, brings in multidisciplinary collaboration between engineering, science, business and policy.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (10:33):<br>Well, the problems that we have to deal with today, especially in the energy space, are all multidisciplinary, right?</p> <p>Liling Huang (10:41):<br>Mm-hmm &lt;affirmative&gt;. Yes.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (10:41):<br>They have the technical aspects. Which are very clear. You have the social economic aspects, which in my opinion are very, very clear. And you got the political aspects which are not as clear &lt;laugh&gt;, uh, at least on some things, but are still clearly there, right? So, Leah, your role at the ISE is specifically around developing connections across communities to put George 鶹Ƶ's research and scholarship into action in support of a sustainable world. So what does it look like to build those bridges across discipline?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (11:17):<br>Yes.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (11:18):<br>And talk a little bit about the receptivity on campus to building those bridges amongst our faculty and, and our, and our researchers and the like.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (11:27):<br>Sure. Um, I was gonna say, I'm gonna go one step further and say we're building bridges across academic disciplines, but we're also working to bring external partners, people who are interested in co-designing, co-developing solutions, um, that they're experiencing in their, in their lives with local governments, local, you know, local businesses.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (11:44):<br>Yeah. Sometimes they can be, for lack of a better way of putting it, easier to build relationships with than the entities right here on campus.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (11:51):<br>That can be true.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (11:53):<br>A couple of nights ago I had dinner with one of the founders of Nvidia. And at that dinner, they were talking, of course, they were extolling the virtues of their AI chips and the super computers that you can build from these AI chips. And one of the things that he talked about really piqued my interest that just immediately came to mind listening to you all talk about bridging the divide. Their belief is that some solutions are hyperdimensional, right? Meaning there's so many layers of possible connection that we just may not be able to see. It may not be able to draw the connection to inner city social science issues and next generation solar. Right. But that computers, especially those equipped with, uh, uh, AI generated tools, can actually explore well beyond our realm of seeing an actual problem. And so I just wanna get your reaction to that relative to this transdisciplinary work and finding solutions that right now aren't obvious to us.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (13:03):<br>So you really hit on something I'm also excited about. One, one of the things I was doing while I was at the National Science Foundation and was trying to fund science that would advance our understanding of these complex system interactions. And the advances in the technology have really unlocked that ability. You know, science hundreds of years ago through relatively recently, was focused on a reductionist, like, let's break it down to the smallest, smallest, smallest parts to really understand what's going on. Valuable, but at like, now, we can really look at systems and try to interrogate what's the causality? Can you explain causality within systems? So these types of tools really allow us to interrogate these complex systems in really new ways, which could very much reveal opportunities to adjust to, to where to take action, how action in some spaces will potentially propagate into action. Uh, you know, this is a new area of science. I'm not, I'm not saying that we're gonna be able to explain every complex system, but what an exciting avenue of science is, is to be interrogating the complexity instead of the smallest pieces.</p> <p>Liling Huang (14:03):<br>Yeah. I, I think that we, a a unit, an institution, we have a very limited time to learn. Very limited view. And yes, AI does provide a potential to be able to look at everything holistically, maybe come up with a good solution. But personally, I always think that, you know, everything has, it's, it's always two folded. On one side, it has one and has a zero. So I think it, it brings opportunity, but also we want to know the challenge that AI bring in to the society. So we still need a human, human in the loop to help AI do a better job. You know, we are human being, we want to have a better life. So we don't want the whole world to become just machine, just AI. So the human in the loop is very important. Uh, and that also, like all the AI computation, again, I'm the power person. So I would like to say the challenge that the AI computation bring in is the humongous energy demand to support those AI computation, and that huge energy demand is part of the challenge to our infrastructure, the impact to the environment. So how do we solve those complex problem? It's very interesting.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (15:23):<br>Oh, I hear you. I hear you.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (15:25):<br>I think AI is an exciting tool, but fully agree that you have to use it cautiously. Any type of science, any type of tool, how is it gonna get used and how is it gonna be put into practice and changing the world around us. So things to think about the,</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (15:37):<br>The challenge is that cat might be out of the bag right now, you know? So look, you both have work experience outside the academy, right? So Leah, you spend time at National Science Foundation; Liling, you were a certified, uh, professional engineer at Taiwan Development and Trust Corporation before pursuing a PhD. And so talk about those experiences and how those experiences inspire your move into higher ed, but also how those experiences are helpful for you today.</p> <p>Liling Huang (16:08):<br>So I think it's a very valuable experience. Uh, like I work in industry and I see the challenge in industry, which the student will be, uh, facing, you know, in their career. So I see the gap between the industry and academia. I remember when I first report to, uh, my manager, I have to learn everything, you know, start from the beginning because it's, I learn all the theory. So I kind of see the importance of hands-on, practical. Uh, and also I see that the, the importance and actually to run the infrastructure, human is also, I would say like the operator. The engineer is very important and very critical part of the infrastructure. So I see the gap and I see the importance of having a skillful engineer workforce. And that's why, uh, inspire me to build a career in academia because I think that, uh, it is a very prestigious position to train and educate a future engineer. And that experience helped me to better embed, improve my teaching, uh, education and research to be able to bring in the practical challenge and experience into the education and research.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (17:31):<br>Interesting.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (17:31):<br>So while I was at the National Science Foundation, one of my primary roles was to help build and design these multidisciplinary, and transdisciplinary types of funding programs to fund different types of science. Again, focusing predominantly on socioecological systems and the, the role of, of those systems and how those are changing. And then toward the latter part, while I was engaged with an advisory council, they gave us very strong advice. Like we're, we've been describing the challenges of the world for a while, quite a long time in the socio-environmental systems. What do we start doing about it? And that really helped drive me to think about like, what type of science needs to be done so that we can start taking action to address these grand challenges, these wicked challenges. And as a, a program officer, I was facilitating those sorts of dialogues across disciplines so that I bring back to the table here at 鶹Ƶ, getting lots of people with very different worldviews in the same room to come to a, a common understanding of need and opportunity and ways that we can support, uh, science to develop solutions in these space. I was also often one of the voices in the room saying, how do we bring the spaces of research use into the, the scientific questions or the science that we're funding? How do we get use-inspired science where community partners or industry partners are, are deeply engaged in development of the science itself or the co-design of the science.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (18:50):<br>So one of the solutions in our grand challenge initiative is George 鶹Ƶ at the center of building a climate resilience society. Now, you two sit in different components of that spectrum, right, of building a climate resilient society. And so as two researchers dedicated to innovation and sustainability, what does climate resiliency mean to you? Right. And what do you see as the grand challenge in your space?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (19:18):<br>So a climate resilience society, I, I will say, you know, we are in the throes of climate change. We are now experiencing more intense storms, greater and in longer, and durations of heat, shifts in seasonal, um, patterns. However, a lot of our communities, as, as, uh, Liling was saying earlier, a lot of our infrastructure was built decades, if not centuries ago, uh, well before climate change was even underway or understood to be underway. And so there's vulnerabilities, and we need to start accounting for how the changing climate and the, the information that we're receiving, um, now about how the ecosystems are working and the physical systems are working into managing those, the infrastructure and the, the systems that comprise communities. That means understanding and like really looking at where are the risks? What types of changes in the flood patterns or the rainfall patterns or the heat indices, where are those gonna cause the most damage?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (20:18):<br>And then how do we start, um, mitigating that type of damage? What interventions do we need to put in place so that when events happen, when significant rainfall happens and floods occur, infrastructure and people are outta the way not damaged? Or what can we do to make sure that those systems are, can sort of go down for a short while and then come right back up? They're not being destroyed. So identifying where there's risk, identifying opportunities to make changes to ensure that our, our systems are sustainable and can withstand the consequences or the, the more extreme weather and the, the different weather and climate effects that we're experiencing now is, is really important.</p> <p>Liling Huang (20:58):<br>And to me, I think Leah meant, you know, the cause--it's very, very important, like to build a climate, uh, resilient society, we need to understand and the cause and to observe the pattern, and from the engineering perspective, from the energy infrastructure, we need to know if we are part of the cause, how do we improve that? How do we reduce that from the design operate perspective to support that? And also, when this type of extreme weather occurred, how can we continuously provide reliable energy? Because that's the backbone of everything, of our daily life. So to build a resilient climate, uh, you know, uh, society, I, I see that all our six grand challenges touch this topic. And this is actually the core to connect all the six challenges together. We need the 21st century workforce, uh, to build a climate resilience society. We need the digital, we need the AI, we need a healthcare system, we need everything. And then our grand challenges right on top of that.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (22:11):<br>Okay. Well, let's &lt;laugh&gt; let's dive into this a little bit. This whole concept of building a climate resilient society really is not about understanding climate change from the perspective of whether it's manmade or whether it's just a natural artifact of the changing cycles in the way our planet is progressing. It's really about saying whatever's causing it, we have some challenges, right? We have major challenges on both coast &lt;laugh&gt;. One can't get enough water and it's burning, and the other one is literally getting too much. And, you know, we've had multiple 500, uh, year biblical floods in a number of locations. This is about what happens as we deal with the aftermath of climate change, building a climate resilient society. Our climate is changing. Our society has to change in order to accommodate it. And so, yes, everything you guys highlighted, we need faculty, we need folk trained properly in order to manage this.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (23:25):<br>Right? But what I'm getting at here is: talk a little bit about deal with the political issues that may be dividing us on the causality aspect of this problem. How do we get away from that and focus on the fact that, look, I don't care what your belief is, you're flooding and we need a solution for that. We need a a new home type system for that, or we need a solution to help you mitigate that, or a warning system to keep you out of that. Or communications framework that helps you to understand when these things are coming so you can react. Talk about that a little bit.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (24:04):<br>The, what you were just saying is essential. We need to address the problems of today, as you just said, coasts are being inundated, communities are being destroyed, literally, um, quite literally. Um, and in a repeated way, both from wildfires and extreme like downpours and flooding in, in places that you would not expect floods to happen. And it, it's happening outside of the floodplains that we understand from before. Severe wind and tornadoes are taking down, you know, there's a lot of damage to infrastructure and people and livelihoods all across the country. So we do need to be addressing the challenges that we're experiencing today. I think one of the things that we need to do differently is a lot of the, like I said, the, the prior infrastructure and the risk assessments are typically looking retrospectively. Like what has happened in the past that we need to plan for now.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (24:52):<br>Like you, you mentioned 500 year floods. In the past, those types of floods did happen once every 500 years or so. Now, the science is able to, to, to provide some predictions about what the future trends are going to be in these areas. And so in order to plan and, and address infrastructure challenges of today, we should be looking at what the best available science is telling us about where things are going so that we can start accounting for that in, in the way that we build our infrastructure systems. I mean, you might say climate science, but you, you might also just say, this is best available science of how many floods are gonna happen.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (25:27):<br>Or, this is just community planning now, right? Look, if, if the flood plain is shifting and it's going to be here now, it's not build the homes there, let's shift them and build them a mile two miles away, where it might've been a problem previously, but maybe it's not that now you, you, you get what I'm saying?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (25:47):<br>And it's, some of it's the floodplains that themselves are shifting, but a lot of what's happening now is this heavy, heavy, heavy downpours, you know?</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (25:53):<br>No, I, I get it. I get it. I mean, places that were flooding previously, this is what happened with the young people in, uh, in, in Texas. Texas, right?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (26:04):<br>Yes, that was terrible.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (26:04):<br>You know, look, the reality is is that the, the area always flooded. And that's why nobody really worried about it too much. But we live in a different time now. We need tools to predict that. We need tools to say, Hey, based on our predictive models, what's coming is not what you saw five years ago, 10 years ago. This is different. Get out. Right. And so that's the kind of thing that I want us to get to as we build a climate resilient society. Liling, I I know I interrupted you. Go ahead.</p> <p>Liling Huang (26:36):<br>No, no, you're good.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (26:38):<br>Uh, I, I, you know, because youre, you're in the, you're, you are literally in the core space of this with energy production.</p> <p>Liling Huang (26:44):<br>Yes. As long as they are human activities, we impact the environment, but there's no way we'll go back to live in the cage, uh, without electricity, going back to, you know, millions years back. So how do we better design and, and live in the environment to reduce the impact? And President Washington, you mentioned, like, to design a climate resilient society is not just the science, not the engineering, but it's the society. My experience, my view is a lot of community, they do not have the access to the data, to the fact people make decision based on the feeling, their perspective, a very limited perspective on maybe just economy or maybe just political or, you know, they, they all look at a smaller set of their view and, which cannot solve the problem. Uh, you, you see, like even the energy policy, you roll out the energy policy for the next five years, and all of a sudden you change, and then who knows, then next five years it change again.</p> <p>Liling Huang (27:56):<br>I think what the, the challenge is, uh, to have a holistic view of the multidisciplinary: from the social, from the business, from the political, from engineering, from science. And again, the core is the community, is the human. So I think that's actually what I see, the, the challenge. And then I think that we have the responsibility to deliver the message, uh, to deliver the holistic fact and data to inform that, you know, this is going to happen if you don't take this action. And then I think everyone is responsible, you know, on the building the resilient society.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (28:39):<br>I was also gonna add, 'cause I, I, I didn't talk much about mitigation of climate, the carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but that is something we might wanna be very, very thoughtfully considering as we address climate resiliency. Things that keep me up at night are, um, you know, we have trajectories and the science is starting to tell us that some systems are going to start collapsing. And we're talking about like ocean systems and sea level rise, and well, what's gonna happen to our agriculture system? I mean, there's some of these existential challenges that might be on the horizon that we're still working on getting the science about when is that gonna happen? Is that gonna happen? Those sorts of things. But there is signals that we do really need to be addressing how much carbon dioxide we're putting into the atmosphere so that we hopefully keep us below some of those tipping points. We'll see.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (29:24):<br>As we move forward here. And, and if you were to be having conversations with our young people today, as you do in the classroom and beyond, or even with our faculty as, as we end, what are some of the ways individuals can help create climate resilient communities and ensure sustainable future?</p> <p>Leah Nichols (29:43):<br>One of the most effective ways of, of creating resiliency within a community is, is actually reaching out to your, your neighbors and your community. Understanding where people are vulnerable, helping them address those vulnerabilities if and when possible. Recognizing that you, you might wanna go up the street and check on somebody in, in the context of a disaster so that you can help them create some resiliency. The more that we connect and create community, the stronger those communities are, regardless of the infrastructure. Though, ideally you also are engaged in the processes that will upgrade and, and increase the resiliency of the critical infrastructures of those communities.</p> <p>Liling Huang (30:18):<br>Yeah. Uh, for me, I always encourage my student and emphasize the importance of having a critical thinking skill. They are the future, uh, generation. They're the future engineer to build the system, to operate the system. So critical thinking, skill and teamwork, it's very important. Uh, one person cannot solve a problem. You need a team. You need people from different skillset, from different perspective. Also, to be able to work with a team to drive the innovation and critical thinking. Uh, you don't always believe what you hear. Right. You have to be able to critically evaluate before you accept it. I think that's very, very important. Not just, you know, uh, receive what we were told and then execute that. I think critical thinking, very important. So you don't be influenced or misled easily.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (31:16):<br>Understood. Understood. Well, look, this has been fantastic. Last point. Just quickly, lightning round. What's given you hope for the future?</p> <p>Liling Huang (31:27):<br>I think the, the hope of the future, uh, is our next generation. It is here, 鶹Ƶ, our faculty, our student. I think that's the future. And then the infrastructure side, you know, the research, and again, our theme, like our living lab that give us hope of the future.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (31:48):<br>What gives me hope is, is the amount of people who are working hard to solve these types of problems. You know, faculty as well as students in the next generation, despite significant headwinds in some contexts. There's, there's a lot of people in the world in the United States and, and far beyond that are really committed to, and digging into solving these sorts of challenges. And that's the only way things are gonna get done, is we just keep on working, keep on designing. I think there's, there's a lot of opportunities to innovate. I just look for the people who are doing things, good things, um, and there's a lot of them through the living labs and through the Institute for Sustainable Earth, always wanting to help and support those individuals here in the 鶹Ƶ community and beyond.</p> <p>President Gregory Washington (32:31):<br>Outstanding. Outstanding. Well, we're gonna have to leave it there. Liling and Leah, thank you both for joining us today.</p> <p>Liling Huang (32:39):<br>Thank you.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (32:40):<br>Thank you so much for having us.</p> <p>Leah Nichols (32:41):<br>Thank you so much. I am 鶹Ƶ President Gregory Washington. Thanks for listening. And tune in next time for more conversations that show why we are all together different.</p> <p>Outro (32:56):<br>If you like what you heard on this podcast, go to podcast.gmu.edu for more of Gregory Washington's conversations with the thought leaders, experts, and educators who take on the grand challenges facing our students, graduates, and higher education. That's podcast.gmu.edu.</p> </div> </section> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="bde44a66-dd82-4478-bd62-d75437edb4f9"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="/podcast"> <p class="cta__title">Listen to more episodes of Access to Excellence <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_associated_people" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-associated-people"> <h2>In This Story</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-associated-people field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">People Mentioned in This Story</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/lhuang20" hreflang="und">Liling Huang</a></div> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:news_list" data-inline-block-uuid="ffdf7722-4cce-467b-89f8-8747f1841c05" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocknews-list"> <h2>Related news</h2> <div class="views-element-container"><div class="view view-news view-id-news view-display-id-block_1 js-view-dom-id-08afe7796e3c7a939515ba40d9aacedacfa7b1c928f470975720fb2afa2b9a90"> <div class="view-content"> <div class="news-list-wrapper"> <ul class="news-list"> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-10/podcast-modern-grid-intersection-energy-and-environment" hreflang="en">Podcast: The modern grid: the intersection of energy and the environment</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">October 20, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-09/podcast-are-earths-oceans-suffocating" hreflang="en">Podcast: Are Earth's oceans suffocating?</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">September 29, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-08/podcast-best-access-excellence" hreflang="en">Podcast: Best of Access to Excellence</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">August 27, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-07/podcast-small-cup-big-impact-fight-against-lyme-disease" hreflang="en">Podcast: A small cup with big impact in the fight against Lyme disease</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">July 14, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-06/podcast-future-we-want-one-grand-challenge-six-grand-solutions" hreflang="en">Podcast: A Future We Want: One Grand Challenge. 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Photo provided.</figcaption> </figure> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Major events at 鶹Ƶ, like graduation ceremonies, basketball games, and 鶹Ƶ Day are high-water events in student life. But how do they affect the campus ecosystem?&nbsp;</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">For the past year, with support from the </span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Institute for a Sustainable Earth</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> (ISE), groups of undergraduate and graduate engineering students have worked with university </span><a href="https://facilities.gmu.edu/"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Facilities</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> to sample air and water quality measurements at eight spots across campus. They are studying how human-centered activities like special events and campus construction projects, along with natural events like heavy rainstorms, affect the urban campus environment.</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">“Fairfax is a very active campus in terms of construction,” said </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryam-zavareh-ph-d-b65b8831/"><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Maryam </span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">Zavareh</span></a><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, an expert in environmental engineering who earned her PhD from George 鶹Ƶ in 2021. “They’re always building something or something is always going on for students.” </span><span class="TextRun EmptyTextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0" lang="EN-US"></span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Weather is also a factor, she pointed out, and so are projects like rain gardens (also called best management practices or BMPs). “Rain can affect a stream’s turbidity and its dissolved oxygen in a negative way, while BMPs can help quality.”</span><span class="TextRun EmptyTextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0" lang="EN-US"></span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">As part of her PhD program, </span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">Zavareh</span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> started taking measurements around 鶹Ƶ Pond and campus streams. She wanted to use machine learning to predict water quality patterns in conjunction with the </span><a href="https://maggioni.vse.gmu.edu/"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Maggioni Research Group</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, a lab run on campus by water resources engineering expert </span><a href="https://civil.gmu.edu/profiles/vmaggion"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Viviana Maggioni</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, an associate professor in the Sid and Reva Dewberry Department of Civil, Environmental, and Infrastructure Engineering, and air quality expert </span><a href="/profiles/lhennem"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Lucas Henneman</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, an assistant professor in the department. With this ISE grant, Maggioni called </span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">Zavareh</span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> back to run the project as a consultant.</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Starting in May 2024, a new group of students each semester </span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">have</span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> learned to gather data in the field, work with </span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">the instruments</span><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, and calibrate them for accurate readings.&nbsp;</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">“One of the advantages of this project is that students get to go into the field and take measurements,” said </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dineshnp/"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Dinesh Neupane</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, a PhD candidate in civil and environmental engineering and student leader for the project. “That was lacking in my previous programs—students stayed in the labs.”</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Neupane is excited for the opportunity to measure air quality—something that hasn’t been done yet on campus—in addition to water. “We want to calibrate the ground data we measure with satellite imagery to see if we can get the imaging to accurately take the readings for us,” he said.</span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">So far, Neupane said that campus events do not have a major effect on water quality. “</span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">We think big gatherings will </span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun AdvancedProofingIssueV2Themed" lang="EN-US">have an effect on</span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> air quality, but we don’t have that data yet. We’re still in the process of setting those instruments up.”</span><span class="TextRun EmptyTextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0" lang="EN-US"></span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW193461467 BCX0"><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">This year’s work by </span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">Zavareh</span><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, Neupane, and their student teams lays the groundwork for future students to analyze their data and carry the research forward. They are proving that ISE’s </span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/malila/"><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab</span></a><span class="TrackedChange SCXW193461467 BCX0 TextRun NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> program offers great insights.</span><span class="TextRun EmptyTextRun SCXW193461467 BCX0" lang="EN-US"></span><span class="EOP SCXW193461467 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18291" hreflang="en">鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/561" hreflang="en">Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3001" hreflang="en">Department of Civil Environmental and Infrastructure Engineering (CEIE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/9146" hreflang="en">environmental engineering</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/8911" hreflang="en">civil engineering; stormwater infrastructure; climate variability</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/10251" hreflang="en">water resource engineering; civil and infrastructure engineering</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/11491" hreflang="en">water quality</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18106" hreflang="en">air quality</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/271" hreflang="en">Research</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/17696" hreflang="en">Sustainability</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/536" hreflang="en">Alumni</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:14:43 +0000 Jennifer Pocock 117941 at George 鶹Ƶ earns solid gold in sustainability /news/2024-06/george-mason-earns-solid-gold-sustainability <span>George 鶹Ƶ earns solid gold in sustainability</span> <span><span>Lauren Reuscher</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-06-06T09:56:18-04:00" title="Thursday, June 6, 2024 - 09:56">Thu, 06/06/2024 - 09:56</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span class="intro-text">For its commitment to campus sustainability, 鶹Ƶ has earned a Gold rating in the <a href="https://stars.aashe.org/about-stars/">STARS (Sustainability Tracking, Assessment and Rating System) Assessment</a>. STARS is a self-reporting framework for colleges and universities to measure their sustainability performance and is offered by the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education (AASHE). George 鶹Ƶ has received four consecutive STARS Gold ratings and was the first Virginia university to earn that rating in 2014. &nbsp;</span></p> <hr> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/medium/public/2024-06/210421137.jpg?itok=d0h1ty8y" width="560" height="373" alt="Yellow flower" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>George 鶹Ƶ earned a Gold rating in the STARS assessment for the fourth consecutive time, Photo by Evan Cantwell/Office of University Branding</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span>STARS was administered by staff from </span><a href="https://green.gmu.edu/"><span>University Sustainability</span></a><span> and </span><a href="https://consulting.gmu.edu/"><span>University Business Consulting</span></a><span>. This year, George 鶹Ƶ demonstrated improvements in several performance categories, earning a total of 73.66 points. The university’s score increased 13% since the last assessment in 2021. The threshold for earning a Gold rating is 65 points, and George 鶹Ƶ is only 11.34 points away from earning the highest honor, STARS Platinum. Rankings are valid for three years. </span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span>Amber Saxton, program manager in University Sustainability, co-led the university-wide assessment with Minh Le, senior consultant in University Business Consulting. </span></span></span></p> <figure class="quote"><span><span><span>“STARS recognizes what we are doing well, puts our sustainability planning and execution in context with peers nationwide, and helps us create a roadmap for continued improvement,” Saxton said. “鶹Ƶ’s Gold rating reflects a comprehensive effort from stakeholders across the university, from research to operations.”</span></span></span></figure> <figure role="group"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/extra_large_content_image/public/2024-06/211028804.jpg?itok=3Io-9rvs" width="1480" height="987" alt="Renovated men's soccer locker room" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Sustainable purchasing is part of George 鶹Ƶ's STARS Gold rating. Locker room renovations for the men's soccer team included sustainable upgrades like lockers made from recycled content and responsibly sourced materials and energy-efficient lights. This project was supported by the Patriot Green Fund. Photo by Shelby Burgess/Office of University Branding</figcaption> </figure> <h3><span><span><span><span>Consistent success in campus sustainability</span></span></span></span></h3> <p><span><span><span>George 鶹Ƶ has consistently earned high scores in the STARS categories for sustainable transportation programs, stormwater management, and academics and research. George 鶹Ƶ also scored highly in the innovation category for its </span><a href="https://green.gmu.edu/campus-sustainability/campus-gardens/"><span>on-campus gardens</span></a><span>, food bank (the Student Support and Advocacy Center's </span><a href="https://ssac.gmu.edu/patriot-pantry/"><span>Patriot Pantry</span></a><span>), and sustainability project grant funds (Facilities’ </span><a href="https://green.gmu.edu/patriot-green-fund/"><span>Patriot Green Fund</span></a><span> and the Institute for a Sustainable Earth’s new </span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/malila/"><span>鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab</span></a><span> fund). </span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2024-06/170306111.jpg?itok=wk9S49M7" width="350" height="232" alt="People work together in the greenhouse on campus" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>The on-campus gardens help 鶹Ƶ score consistently high in the innovation category on STARS. Photo by Evan Cantwell/Office of University Branding</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span>High marks in these categories reflect the commitment of stakeholders across the university.</span></span></span></p> <figure class="quote"><span><span><span>“鶹Ƶ departments and colleges have prioritized sustainability as a strategic part of their performance criteria and benchmarks for progress,” said Greg Farley, director of University Sustainability. “鶹Ƶ has set a goal to be the highest-scoring AASHE STARS school in Virginia by 2030, so University Sustainability and its partners will need to keep pushing forward.”</span></span></span></figure> <h3><span><span><span><span>Measuring the culture of sustainability </span></span></span></span></h3> <p><span><span><span><span><span>This year, George 鶹Ƶ earned new points in the sustainability literacy and culture category for launching a survey to measure students' sustainability literacy, culture, and behavior. Recent graduate Nikita Lad, PhD Environmental Science and Policy ’24, and K.L. Akerlof, associate professor of science communication, administered the survey to a representative sample of undergraduates in fall 2022 and spring 2023. </span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure class="quote"><span><span><span><span><span>“The survey measured what factors affect students' sustainability behaviors and whether their knowledge and behaviors changed through formal or informal programming during their college careers,” said Lad.</span></span></span></span></span></figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span>The theoretically informed survey model found that time spent on campus and informal program participation influenced students’ nature connectedness and norms, which in turn affected sustainability behaviors. Lad shared the research study through a webinar with other members of AASHE and hopes to collaborate with other universities on future iterations of the survey.</span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/medium/public/2024-06/231102906_1.jpg?itok=tTRGGBLQ" width="560" height="373" alt="Smartphone takes a photo of a plant on campus for Bioblitz" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Through Bioblitz, the 鶹Ƶ Nation crowdsources the identification of species across campus. Photo by Cristian Torres/Office of University Branding</figcaption> </figure> <h3><span><span><span><span>Bioblitz made an impact</span></span></span></span></h3> <p><span><span><span><span>George 鶹Ƶ earned new points in biodiversity this year thanks to </span><a href="/news/2023-11/bioblitz-helps-capture-masons-biodiversity"><span>Bioblitz</span></a><span>, a crowdsourced assessment of plant and animal species on campus. Through an app, the 鶹Ƶ Nation helped identify and monitor endangered and vulnerable species around the university. In spring 2024, more than 500 biodiversity observations were entered into the Bioblitz app by 107 observers, documenting 273 species.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2024-06/img_8120_1.jpg?itok=s9O4J6uE" width="350" height="233" alt="Bigbelly waste stations being installed on campus" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Bigbelly solar waste stations were recently installed across George 鶹Ƶ's campuses. Photo by Facilities</figcaption> </figure> <h3><span><span><span><span>Moving toward zero waste</span></span></span></span></h3> <p><span><span><span><span>New efforts to improve waste diversion boosted George 鶹Ƶ’s score in that category. Facilities Management, University Sustainability, Auxiliary Services and Operations, and other campus partners worked to expand composting, reduce single-use plastics, and promote the use of certified compostable and aluminum products. </span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>George 鶹Ƶ is expected to improve further in this category in the future, with the installation of new </span><a href="/news/2024-02/dont-trash-it-compost-it-mason-facilities-adds-23-bigbelly-zero-waste-stations"><span>Bigbelly solar waste stations</span></a><span> across its campuses, the development and implementation of new design standards for “zero waste” bins, the addition of glass recycling, and the future launch of a reusable food container pilot and paper towel composting. </span></span></span></span></p> <hr> <p><span><span><span><em><span>鶹Ƶ earned one of the highest STARS ratings among Virginia universities. As of April 2024, the University of Virginia earned 74.85 points, 鶹Ƶ earned 73.66 points, and Virginia Commonwealth University earned 66.4 points. Participating institutions can earn points toward a STARS Bronze, Silver, Gold, or Platinum Rating, or earn the STARS Reporter designation. </span></em></span></span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="3e444211-7bf6-4bbf-8322-c52f85eb0d25"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="https://green.gmu.edu/"> <p class="cta__title">Sustainability at George 鶹Ƶ <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="437a7959-ac09-4e66-a2a5-12eaddec21de" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:news_list" data-inline-block-uuid="845f58b2-722e-419f-baf8-08f78ff2dd71" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocknews-list"> <h2>Related News</h2> <div class="views-element-container"><div class="view view-news view-id-news view-display-id-block_1 js-view-dom-id-8d0ba6553ef5395395510a5713b5544af68de94e5b97015563fe756117230104"> <div class="view-content"> <div class="news-list-wrapper"> <ul class="news-list"> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-09/bringing-safe-water-table" hreflang="en">Bringing safe water to the table</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">September 30, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-06/student-led-chesapeake-bay-project-showcases-george-masons-commitment-environmental" hreflang="en">Student-led Chesapeake Bay project showcases George 鶹Ƶ’s commitment to environmental stewardship</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">June 25, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-05/residency-trip-new-york-city-inspires-impact-fellows" hreflang="en">Residency trip to New York City inspires Impact Fellows</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">May 30, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-05/george-mason-civil-engineering-students-are-helping-local-communities-improve-their" hreflang="en">George 鶹Ƶ civil engineering students are helping local communities improve their flood resilience </a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">May 8, 2025</div></div></li> <li class="news-item"><div class="views-field views-field-title"><span class="field-content"><a href="/news/2025-05/mason-korea-holds-5th-annual-beach-cleaning-day" hreflang="en">鶹Ƶ Korea holds 5th annual beach cleaning day</a></span></div><div class="views-field views-field-field-publish-date"><div class="field-content">May 1, 2025</div></div></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/911" hreflang="en">Sustainability</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/17696" hreflang="en">Sustainability</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/116" hreflang="en">Campus News</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/6826" hreflang="en">Facilities</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/17766" hreflang="en">Greenhouse and Gardens Program</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/7601" hreflang="en">Patriot Green Fund</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18291" hreflang="en">鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/561" hreflang="en">Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/17356" hreflang="en">Strategic Direction</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Thu, 06 Jun 2024 13:56:18 +0000 Lauren Reuscher 112436 at 鶹Ƶ Scientists Sound 'Wake-up Call' on Virginia’s Wildfires /news/2024-04/mason-scientists-sound-wake-call-virginias-wildfires <span>鶹Ƶ Scientists Sound 'Wake-up Call' on Virginia’s Wildfires</span> <span><span>Colleen Rich</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-04-23T11:17:57-04:00" title="Tuesday, April 23, 2024 - 11:17">Tue, 04/23/2024 - 11:17</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--30-70"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p class="x"><span class="intro-text"><em>Page, Shenandoah County wildfires a warning to prepare for more frequent future disasters</em></span></p> <p class="x"><span class="intro-text">A&nbsp;<a href="https://science.gmu.edu/news/mason-scientists-sound-wake-call-virginias-wildfires" target="_blank">group of scientists</a>&nbsp;from 鶹Ƶ’s&nbsp;<a href="https://science.gmu.edu/" target="_blank">College of Science</a>&nbsp;are calling the Page and Shenandoah County wildfires a “wake-up call” for Virginia and the Eastern Seaboard that heralds the increasing threat of wildfire to the region as the climate continues to change.</span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span>Wildfires that are a regular occurrence in the western United States will become more frequent in the east in the decades to come, they warn.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span>“There have been few wildfires in Virginia over the last two decades, but the risk of wildfires has been increasing due to extreme weather and climate events caused by climate change,” said John Qu, director of 鶹Ƶ’s Environmental Science and Technology Center.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span>In the case of the Page and Shenandoah County wildfires, “swift actions from emergency managers and first responders, complemented by fortunate rainfall, helped dodge a dire outcome,” said Alireza Ermagun, director of the Mobility Observatory and Data Analytics Lab and an assistant professor in the&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science"><span>Department of Geography and Geoinformation Science</span></a></span><span>.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span>Nevertheless, “the fires brought severe air pollution to northwestern Virginia,” said Daniel Tong, associate professor of&nbsp;atmospheric&nbsp;chemistry and&nbsp;aerosols&nbsp;in the&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/atmospheric-oceanic-earth-sciences" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/atmospheric-oceanic-earth-sciences"><span>Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Earth Sciences</span></a></span><span>.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span>The scientists said this alarm bell points to the need for building resilience, solidifying emergency preparedness, and planning for evacuation, particularly for vulnerable populations including those with disabilities or without private transportation. Early detection measures will help, as will making the population more aware of this increasing threat.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><strong><em><span>The 鶹Ƶ scientists who are available for comment on wildfire, including in Virginia, include:</span></em></strong></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><strong><span>Daniel Tong—air quality observations and predictions (wildfires, dust storms and aerosol effects)</span></strong></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/daniel-tong" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/daniel-tong"><span>Daniel Tong</span></a></span><span>,&nbsp;an associate professor of&nbsp;atmospheric&nbsp;chemistry and&nbsp;aerosols&nbsp;in the&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/atmospheric-oceanic-earth-sciences" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/atmospheric-oceanic-earth-sciences"><span>Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Earth Sciences</span></a></span><span>&nbsp;within&nbsp;鶹Ƶ’s&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/"><span>College of Science</span></a></span><span>, works closely with NASA’s Health and Air Quality Applied Sciences Team, and leads a NASA-funded effort to improve the country’s dust forecasting capabilities. His atmospheric modeling tools were tapped to better understand the recent Canadian wildfires and their impact on air quality across the United States. By plugging real-time satellite data into a complex model of Earth’s atmosphere—one that accounts for site-specific variables like soil type, wind speed, and how Earth’s surface interacts with winds—the system churns out hourly forecasts that can even predict dust storms up to three days in advance.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><strong><span>Alireza Ermagun—vulnerable populations, emergency preparedness</span></strong></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/alireza-ermagun" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/alireza-ermagun"><span>Alireza Ermagun</span></a></span><span>, the Director of the Mobility Observatory and Data Analytics Lab and an Assistant Professor in the&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science"><span>Department of Geography and Geoinformation Science</span></a></span><span>&nbsp;at 鶹Ƶ, is at the forefront of creating safer futures for wildfire-prone communities in California. By developing a practice-ready framework, he addresses the urgent evacuation and sheltering needs of disadvantaged communities when wildfires erupt. His NSF-sponsored project, “</span><span><a href="https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=2242647" target="_blank"><span>Snuff It Out: Extinguishing the Disparity of Access to Shelters for Disadvantaged Communities in Wildfire-Prone Areas</span></a></span><span>,”&nbsp;marks a significant leap forward in his commitment. Collaborating closely with local emergency preparedness and law enforcement officials, Ermagun’s work is setting new standards in optimizing wildfire responses. This project is not just about immediate relief; it is about embedding equity into wildfire preparedness strategies, offering a model for resilience that communities across America facing similar threats can replicate.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><strong><span>John Qu—early warning systems, forestry–wildfire nexus</span></strong></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/john-qu" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/john-qu"><span>John Qu</span></a></span><span>&nbsp;is a professor of&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science"><span>Geography and Geoinformation Science</span></a></span><span>&nbsp;at 鶹Ƶ and 鶹Ƶ&nbsp;</span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science" target="_blank" title="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science"><span>Institute of Sustainable Earth</span></a></span><span>&nbsp;Fellow</span><span>. He serves as the director of the Environment Science and Technology Center (ESTC) (</span><span><a href="http://estc.gmu.edu/" target="_blank"><span>http://estc.gmu.edu</span></a><span>) and served as the funding director of the EastFIRE Lab from 2005 to 2013. He focuses his research on wildland fires, land, water, and atmospheric environmental remote sensing, and also collaborates with international partners. His efforts to develop integrated early warning and decision-support systems for sustainable Water-Energy-Food-Health (WEFH) Nexus are already underway, including projects to support the NOAA Atmospheric Temperature Climate Data Record from POES Microwave Sounders to JPSS/ATMS, NOAA; the Africa Soil Moisture Monitoring and Applications with WMO, and assessing impacts of large wildland fires with USDA/FS.</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><strong><span>鶹Ƶ 鶹Ƶ</span></strong></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span><span><a href="//Users/hhelsel/Downloads/www2.gmu.edu" target="_blank"><span>鶹Ƶ</span></a><span>&nbsp;is Virginia’s largest public research university. Located near Washington, D.C., 鶹Ƶ enrolls more than 40,000 students from 130 countries and all 50 states. 鶹Ƶ has grown rapidly over the past half-century and is recognized for its innovation and entrepreneurship, remarkable diversity, and commitment to accessibility.</span></span><span>&nbsp;In 2023, the University launched 鶹Ƶ Now: Power the Possible, a one-billion-dollar comprehensive campaign to support student success, research, innovation, community, and stewardship.</span>&nbsp;<span><a href="//Users/hhelsel/Downloads/www2.gmu.edu" target="_blank"><span>www.gmu.edu</span></a>.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="x"><span><span><span>&nbsp;</span></span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/361" hreflang="en">Tip Sheet</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/561" hreflang="en">Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/271" hreflang="en">Research</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:17:57 +0000 Colleen Rich 111746 at Podcast: What will become of the Amazon? /news/2024-04/podcast-what-will-become-amazon <span>Podcast: What will become of the Amazon?</span> <span><span>Damian Cristodero</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-04-22T10:19:56-04:00" title="Monday, April 22, 2024 - 10:19">Mon, 04/22/2024 - 10:19</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:feature_image" data-inline-block-uuid="0f313b9d-ae45-40ae-8411-cf46fdfbab78" class="block block-feature-image block-layout-builder block-inline-blockfeature-image caption-below"> <div class="feature-image"> <div class="narrow-overlaid-image"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/feature_image_medium/public/2024-04/ATE%20campbell%20slider%20torres%20240418902.jpg?itok=2O_M5aL6" srcset="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/feature_image_small/public/2024-04/ATE%20campbell%20slider%20torres%20240418902.jpg?itok=U9FaNmq0 768w, /sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/feature_image_medium/public/2024-04/ATE%20campbell%20slider%20torres%20240418902.jpg?itok=2O_M5aL6 1024w, /sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/feature_image_large/public/2024-04/ATE%20campbell%20slider%20torres%20240418902.jpg?itok=LK442rAJ 1280w" sizes="(min-width: 1024px) 80vw,100vw" alt="Jeremy Campbell speaks with President Washington on his podcast Access to Excellence. Jeffrey is a white male, bald head, wearing a blue suit jacket and unbuttoned collared shirt."> </div> <div class="headline-text"> <div class="feature-image-headline"> <div class="field field--name-field-feature-image-headline field--type-string field--label-hidden field__item">What will become of the Amazon?</div> </div> </div> </div> </div><div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span>Jeremy Campbell, associate director for strategic engagement in 鶹Ƶ’s Institute for a Sustainable Earth, says that at its current pace the vast Amazon rainforest, in five to 10 years, could pass a tipping point in which it could transform into grasslands. That process, fueled by deforestation and climate change, is a threat to the biodiversity and socio-cultural aspects that define the region, and has global implications as well. In this fascinating conversation in recognition of Earth Month, Campbell explains to 鶹Ƶ President Gregory Washington the magnitude of what the loss of the Amazon rainforest would really mean, and how the Institute for a Sustainable Earth in on the front lines in the region.&nbsp;</span></p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="7fc093c2-be75-4e37-b883-0630799a38d6" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p><iframe allowtransparency="true" data-name="pb-iframe-player" height="150" loading="lazy" scrolling="no" src="https://www.podbean.com/player-v2/?from=embed&amp;i=a8rri-15f0b9d-pb&amp;share=1&amp;download=1&amp;fonts=Arial&amp;skin=f6f6f6&amp;font-color=auto&amp;rtl=0&amp;logo_link=episode_page&amp;btn-skin=7&amp;size=150" style="border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;" title="What will become of the Amazon?" width="100%"></iframe></p> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="4ab2670a-881b-4129-8ace-286807c43419" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><div style="background-image:url(https://content.sitemasonry.gmu.edu/sites/g/files/yyqcgq336/files/2022-10/img-quote-BGgraphic.png); background-size:60%; background-repeat:no-repeat; padding: 3% 3% 3% 6%;"> <p><span class="intro-text">Where there used to be forest, you’re not going to get any more of that transpiration cycle, and so the drying isn’t limited to the places where deforestation happens. Where things are dry, things get hotter. And then when you add like we had last year with the horrible situation throughout the Amazon of an El Nino-induced heat spike and drought, then you have villages that rely on fish, rely on the rivers to get around because the rivers are the highways of the Amazon, who are literally stranded. So the drying out of the Amazon is a tremendous biodiversity challenge, it’s also a tremendous economic challenge. But it’s also a human tragedy that is taking tremendous costs on the people of the Amazon as well."</span></p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="4f0bac06-0596-43ba-8b44-5c9b9c7373f1" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><hr> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:mason_accordion" data-inline-block-uuid="ccd6d3d8-8e07-4cd4-b79b-16595afaa568" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blockmason-accordion"> <div class="field field--name-field-accordion-rows field--type-entity-reference-revisions field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field field--name-field-accordion-rows field--type-entity-reference-revisions field--label-hidden field__item"> <section class="accordion"> <header class="accordion__label"><span class="ui-accordion-header-icon ui-icon ui-icon-triangle-1-e"></span> <p>Read the Transcript</p> <div class="accordion__states"> <span class="accordion__state accordion__state--more"><i class="fas fa-plus-circle"></i></span> <span class="accordion__state accordion__state--less"><i class="fas fa-minus-circle"></i></span> </div> </header> <div class="accordion__content"> <p>Narrator (<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">00:04</a>):</p> <p>Trailblazers in research, innovators in technology, and those who simply have a good story. All make up the fabric that is 鶹Ƶ, where taking on the grand challenges that face our students, graduates, and higher education is our mission and our passion. Hosted by 鶹Ƶ President Gregory Washington, this is the Access to Excellence podcast.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">00:26</a>):</p> <p>The Amazon Basin, which holds the world's biggest river rainforest and a fifth of its fresh water is running dry. That was the news in the Washington Post recently. The New York Times went even further citing a study that says the Amazon rainforest could transform into grasslands in the coming decades because of climate change, deforestation, and severe drought, such as the one the region just experienced. Jeremy Campbell is a cultural anthropologist who studies land conflicts and environmental change in the Brazilian Amazon. He is also the associate director for strategic engagement at 鶹Ƶ's Institute for Sustainable Earth. Since 2020, Dr. Campbell has served as the president of the Society of Anthropology of Lowland South America. That's an international scholarly organization that advocates on behalf of peoples and environments in Amazonia and beyond. In this Earth Month, I am thrilled that Dr. Campbell has given us an opportunity to engage. Welcome Dr. Campbell.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">01:44</a>):</p> <p>Thank you so much Dr. Washington. It's a pleasure to be here.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">01:47</a>):</p> <p>Well, it's great to have you. So let's get right to the bad news.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">01:51</a>):</p> <p>Yeah, let's do it.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">01:53</a>):</p> <p>According to the Times and the study that was produced by an international team of scientists and published in the Journal Nature, the collapse of all or part of the Amazon rainforest would release the equivalent of several years of global emissions, possibly 20 years’ worth, into the atmosphere. Give us a template or an understanding for how that actually happens.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">02:19</a>):</p> <p>Sure. It's complex inherently because the Amazon is, is a very complex region. But to understand what's really going on, you have to really appreciate the size and the immensity and the complexity of the Amazon, which I think for most North Americans, certainly me growing up, I didn't really have much of an understanding other than maybe the, uh, back of the cereal box image of the canopy rainforest with monkeys and toucans and things like this. But you know, the Amazon is vast. It's the size of the lower 48 United States. Yeah, the Amazon Basin is that big.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">02:51</a>):</p> <p>The Amazon Basin is the size of essentially the US minus Alaska and Hawaii.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">02:58</a>):</p> <p>You got it. That's it. It's amazing. Yeah. Not only that, there are nine different nation states that share a portion of that basin going around from Bolivia in the southwest up to Peru, Ecuador, Columbia, Venezuela, Guiana, Surinam, French Guiana, which is an overseas part of the French Republic, so it's part of Europe, it's part of the EU. And then of course Brazil is the lion's share about 70% of the basin. You mentioned Dr. Washington, your stats are good. Your research is good that the Amazon is the world's biggest river by water discharge. Yes. But if you look at the top 20 hydrological discharges rivers in the world, six of them are tributaries of the Amazon. So you've got seven of the top 20 rivers in the world. Right. In that region. Okay. So it is a region that is so immense and so complex to say nothing of the diversity of different river types.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">03:49</a>):</p> <p>You have black river systems, you have clear water systems, you have white water systems. The subbasins are very complex. What that all adds up to is with this immense area, with immense amounts of water, it is big enough to generate its own weather. And so when we talk about the tipping point, the looming tipping point that actually our departed colleague Tom Lovejoy coined that phrase back in 2018. It's the idea that the neotropics, the subtropical system that is the Amazon is in danger of phase shifting from a robust complex rainforest to something like a Savannah, a grassland, or even in some cases something more like the Sahel region of Northern Africa</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">04:35</a>):</p> <p>That's near desert.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">04:35</a>):</p> <p>That's near desert. Exactly. And so how can that happen?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">04:38</a>):</p> <p>Now, now let's, let's put it in perspective. You're talking five years, we're talking five decades, or we're talking 500 years? What are we talking about?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">04:49</a>):</p> <p>Great question. So back in 2018, when Dr. Lovejoy and his colleague Dr. Carlos Nobre from the University of Sao Paulo, published in Nature, the first warning about the tipping point, they estimated what it would take to get to the tipping point is a gross deforestation of approximately 20 to 25% of the land in the entire basin. That was in 2018. At that time, about 18% of the basin had been deforested. Flash ahead six years we're at about 20% of the basin has been deforested. So depending on the projections, and depending on what we might be able to do to put the brakes on deforestation, we might be looking at a tipping point in the next five to 10 years. And again, to put that in perspective, you have the wettest place on earth, some parts of that place becoming a savanna due to deforestation,</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">05:40</a>):</p> <p>but the other crucial part, we can handle deforestation. It's difficult, but we can handle it. The other contributing factor to the tipping point is climate change. And that we're locked into in terms of warming that's affecting the Amazon. The Amazon is warming faster than other regions. It's already warmed 1.3 degrees Celsius since 1980. And it's on an upward trend. That means that some parts of the Amazon are getting wetter, especially the northern parts of the Amazon. But other parts of the Amazon within the global climate system are getting far, far drier. And that's irrespective of seasonal anomalies like an El Nino or a La Nina, which intensify things even further as we know. So you have deforestation cutting down trees that make their own weather through transpiration and evaporation. The Amazon is big enough to, through the transpiration process, there's literally rivers flying above your head.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">06:39</a>):</p> <p>That much water.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">06:39</a>):</p> <p>That much water. Exactly. And those rivers basically follow the trade winds that come from Senegal, from Cape Verde in Africa, and those winds pick up moisture over the South Atlantic. They pick up all the moisture at the Falls of the Amazon near the city of Belem. And then all of that goes kind of in a southwesterly direction towards the Andes. And the Andes is 20,000 feet high. So what happens when air hits that barrier?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">07:04</a>):</p> <p>It turns into ice and snow.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">07:05</a>):</p> <p>It turns to ice and snow. Some of it turns left, which is to say south and southeast and irrigates, South America's bread basket where most of South America's wheat in Argentina, soy in Paraguay and Bolivia and Brazil is grown. And then of course, cattle and pig operations. South America's economy over the past 20 years has been based on the export of commodities in the agricultural sector to East Asia. You turn off the spigot, which is the Amazon hydrogeological cycle, and you're going to see some drying out of that bread basket as well. And so the Amazon plays a crucial role in the global climate system sequestering carbon, we can get into some of the numbers for that if you like. But it also plays a key role in the hydrological and geochemical cycling beyond its borders in South America, which then has implications for global trade and for wellbeing of people who, you know, we've got 8 billion of us on this planet.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">08:04</a>):</p> <p>That’s exactly right</p> <p><strong>Speaker 3</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">08:04</a>):</p> <p>Hungry souls, right?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">08:05</a>):</p> <p>You got more than 8 billion. So climate change is affecting that way. I was also reading in the same Nature article where they were talking about the drought significantly reducing the depth in a number of the rivers and slso causing tremendous warming of the waters in some of the lakes. I think they talk about one of the lakes, I think it's pronounced Tefe</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">08:30</a>):</p> <p>Tefe. Yah, that's in Brazil.</p> <p><strong>Speaker 2</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">08:31</a>):</p> <p>Yeah, where the temperature had reached 40 degrees Centigrade. For those of us who are challenged on that system, it's 104 degrees Fahrenheit and you had large pods of dolphins over 150 of 'em, these freshwater dolphins that perished. 'cause the water got so warm. So that meant other water life didn't live either. If you major and if you major living, eating and living off and using the sea life that's right in that water for commerce, you probably saw some changes there as well.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">09:09</a>):</p> <p>Sure. And for subsistence living, I've done a quite a bit of work over the past 20 years with indigenous and other traditional peoples in the Amazon. And you're absolutely right. The stresses caused by climate change and by deforestation, which really do interact with one another dynamically to push us ever closer to that system change, that phase change from a stable system where water gets recycled to one where, you know, when you cut down a tree and around 20% of the forest is gone now, you are drying out that soil. You are drying out that part of that region. And basically the southern strip of the Amazon has been converted to pasture and cities in the past 40, 50 years. Where there used to be forests, you're not gonna get any more of that transpiration cycle. And so the drying isn't limited to the places where deforestation happens, where things are dry, things get hotter.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">10:01</a>):</p> <p>And then when you add, like we had last year with the horrible situation in Lago Tefe, but all throughout the Amazon of an El Nino induced heat spike and drought, then you have villages that rely on fish, rely on the rivers to get around because the rivers are the highways in the Amazon who are literally stranded without the ability to get to major cities, the without the ability to get healthcare. So the drying out of the Amazon is a tremendous biodiversity challenge. It's also a tremendous economic challenge in the ways we just talked about, but it's also a human tragedy, and it's taking tremendous costs on the people of the Amazon as well.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">10:41</a>):</p> <p>Wow. This is a pretty significant outcome. I've always wanted to get a better understanding of the impact that the Amazon can have on the planet in terms of a losing of substantial portion of it. What do you think that will do to the rest of us? So let's say if we lost, let's make it a big number, 50%. What are we talking about relative to what the rest of the globe will feel?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:10</a>):</p> <p>Well, the catastrophic loss of biodiversity, let's take that first, because the Amazon is estimated these are our best guesses.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:18</a>):</p> <p>I know. I look, I understand.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:19</a>):</p> <p>I mean, it's …</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:20</a>):</p> <p>But your guess is a scientific guess.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:24</a>):</p> <p>Well, that's right. That's right.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:25</a>):</p> <p>And that's better than me putting my index finger in the air and saying, you know, about, okay, so.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">11:31</a>):</p> <p>Right, right, right. And so, yeah, for the sake of argument, if we lose half of the rainforest, then I think we're definitely, even though there was some quibbling when Dr. Lovejoy and Dr. Nobre said tipping point will be reached at 25% deforestation. There was some pushback against that. But if we get to 50%, we're definitely seeing a phase change. We're gonna be seeing savannization, we're gonna be seeing the loss of endemic species diversity in the affected valleys. Again, the Amazon is the name we give to the river that goes west to east. But there are huge river systems that go north south and south north that feed that Amazon. And each one has its distinct biodiversity profile and has also distinct sociocultural properties, different social groups who speak different languages. And so, depending on what happens valley by valley, region by region, we could be experiencing a catastrophic loss of biodiversity.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">12:22</a>):</p> <p>What goes along with that, of course, is part of the mystery of life. Part of what makes us human is that we share this planet with other creatures. And so even before we're able to describe them scientifically, you would see thousands, if not millions of species being pushed to the brink of extinction. Of course, many minds would go towards the opportunity value or the, or the opportunity lost to develop medicines or to develop new technologies based upon things that we don't know, that we don't know in the Amazon, because it is such a biodiversity library. Library is also a good metaphor. Uh, and it's actually a metaphor that's used by my indigenous colleagues when deforestation or drought spikes and begins to challenge and affect indigenous lands. My indigenous colleagues describe that as the libraries of their people burning. Because the trees and the animals and the plant life are part of the traditional knowledge system. Part of how you make your way in the universe, know your place in the universe, find medicine, find food, find stories to pass down to the next generation. And so deforestation plays a sociocultural role in terms of challenging culture's ability to reproduce itself, right? And for people to continue to hold onto their languages and their traditional knowledges and medicines. Also, it's worth saying, because we're talking about climate change, that the system, the broader Amazonian system, sequesters roughly 200 billion tons of carbon dioxide, 200 billion tons. If we lost half of that, let's just go,</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">14:03</a>):</p> <p>Just cut it in half.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">14:04</a>):</p> <p>Really gross numbers here, exactly. A hundred billion tons goes into the atmosphere, poof, just like that. We, as the United States of America, the world's second largest emitter emitted 4 billion tons of carbon last year. So that's 25 years’ worth of our emissions.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">14:21</a>):</p> <p>Okay, so now we start to get an understanding of the magnitude exactly. Of what this loss can actually mean for us. And that's kind of what I wanted people to kind of grasp. Wow. It's a big number.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">14:36</a>):</p> <p>It’s a big number. And again, the loss of biodiversity. I mean, here in the United States, we're comfortable. We plug into our cell phones, we plug into cable news, whatever it is, it can feel like the Amazon's far away. But some major drugs have been developed based on traditional ecological knowledge and biodiversity. In the Amazon, for example, the very first drug that treated malaria quinine or quinine, right? Quinine is based on, uh, derived from the bark of a tree in the Amazon. And so that's kind of a big deal, right? There are others. There are,</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">15:09</a>):</p> <p>And there probably, you know, as we start to, uh, for lack of a better way of putting this, use AI and other tools to look at the pharmaceutical benefits of natural extracts from plants and from plant life and all throughout the planet, but particularly that in the Amazon, we're gonna discover many more.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">15:31</a>):</p> <p>That’s right, that’s right. So we're putting at peril future discoveries, we're putting at peril a big chunk of the mosaic of life and the big chunk of sociocultural diversity. Part of the bad news in the Amazon is in part the attitude that outsiders have taken and continue to take that understanding the region as a place where you can get rich quick, right? So I, I hear you, and it would be great if we could develop something that would be that elixir, but what the trick would be to develop that drug or develop that therapy and make sure the proceeds stay with the people of the Amazon. Because unfortunately, the more that we study the Amazon, and I've been working there for 25 years, there is chapter after chapter of economic boom that is all about getting a particular commodity out. First it was rubber.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">16:21</a>):</p> <p>The world's rubber supply was limited to the Amazon basin because it's native to the Amazon basin. So during the industrial revolution of the late 1800s, all the world's rubber came from the Amazon. So that resulted in actually a really bad impact on the Amazon, because rubber is hard to extract. You have to physically cut the trees and collect the sap. So basically slave labor, uh, indigenous peoples were enslaved other peoples from throughout the Americas were taken in and dropped into the Amazon by their bosses and forced to work in really terrible kinds of conditions. And that all basically flamed out when the British, during the British Empire, Grand Britannia, stole some rubber trees and began a rubber plantation in Malaysia, which allowed for other markets and other sources to open up for rubber. Then you get a gold boom, similar kind of extraction, where profits are extracted, leaving behind very little in the region itself. I would argue that the cattle and soy boom that's happening right now is similar. We have 50 million people living in the Amazon, 50 million individuals, 40 million of them live in cities. A lot of people don't understand that either, right? The Amazon is a highly urbanized place.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">17:34</a>):</p> <p>Interesting.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">17:34</a>):</p> <p>There are cities of 4 and 5 million people, but they are very low on the human development index because they are the sites of factories or farms or these sorts of things where labor and environmental protections are looked askant at or really not enforced. And people are getting by as best they can. And the investment that goes to the area, because it is an incredibly rich area, tends not to stay in the area. That's a key piece of this too. The environmental and social sustainability of the area depends on economic sustainability as well. I believe that crucially, you gotta have all three pillars, uh, all three legs of that stool. And that's a key piece that we really do need to be figuring out.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">18:17</a>):</p> <p>Well, that brings me to my next question, because recently it was announced that the governments of Brazil and France announced a plan to invest 1.1 billion in the Amazon over the next four years to protect the rainforest, right? Now on first blush, anytime you hear the word billion, you think, wow, it's a lot. But there was a part of me that says, given what you just told me now, it didn't seem like that much money for a region that vast. Now it's also been reported that Brazil has contemplated allowing oil exploration t certain parts of the Amazon as well. So, Can you talk a little bit about these plans and what your thoughts are relative to success?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">18:58</a>):</p> <p>Absolutely. Yeah. So it is good news that donor countries like Germany, like Norway, like France, like the United States, actually, the United States has pledged just under, I think around seven 50 million to the Amazon Fund, which is an international, it's based in Brazil, but it's an international scoped fund to try to set up conservation areas to set up sustainable business practices, to support community led conservation and all these sorts of things, which really are project by project wonderful examples of keeping the social, the environmental, and the economic flowing in the right direction. So that's to be applauded. But I think you're right. It's a drop in the bucket when compared to the potential revenues that Petrobras, which is Brazil's largest company, and the second largest petroleum company on the planet Sees when they look at oil exploration in the Amazon, and specifically in a place that is all in the news right now. Brazil has been investing in offshore oil drilling technology in the southern part, uh, near Rio, near Sao Paulo.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">20:06</a>):</p> <p>But a lot of oil has been found just where the Amazon River empties into the Atlantic. It's called the Falls of the Amazon. And so they are moving ahead quickly to begin to develop that area. And we're talking, if it's 1.1 billion that the French and the Germans and the Norwegians have pledged for doling out projects over the next couple years, we'll see 200, 300 multiples of that when it comes to the oil revenue based upon what's there in the offshore area. So the question then is, is that a good idea? Does that not</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">20:37</a>):</p> <p>Well, we, well, well, we can tell you that it's not a good idea once you have a spill. Uh, but the reality is, my fundamental philosophy on deposits of hydrocarbons in the ground is that people are going to develop 'em. To the extent that we develop technologies for mitigation, we need to, The reality of the situation is until the planet forces us to stoP, man will pull those hydrocarbons out of the ground and we'll burn them.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">21:08</a>):</p> <p>I tend to agree with you, provided that it isn't too expensive to get them out. There has to be an economic kind of motivator. And right now, at least for the foreseeable, we see oil selling at a high enough level to justify those offshore investments, which are in the billions themselves To get started. But I absolutely agree with you. And so then I think if we're realists about it, we need to think about mitigation. We need to think about, okay, with those tax revenues going into the public coffers of Brazilian nations or multicultural corporations, what is the dividend that needs to be paid forward to the Amazon to make sure that the commitment to climate change that you're getting by pumping those hydrocarbons outta the ground can be mitigated with the peoples and places? Here's a, a moment of hope, guarded hope next year in November of 2025, so 18 months from now, Brazil will be hosting the 30th meeting of the Convention of the Parties, COP, so COP Paris,</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">22:07</a>):</p> <p>Right, The Paris Agreement, et cetera. Copenhagen, Brazil and other Amazonian nations are eager, very eager to appear to be doing right by the Amazon, which they understand to be simultaneously a globally important asset, but also their particular sovereign ground, right? So Brazil, Brazil is not interested in any, in the UN or the US coming in and taking it over, right? But they are interested in a COP or in a huge international meeting being able to tell a good story about what they're doing. And so if they're gonna move ahead to your point, right? If they're gonna get those hydrocarbons out of the continental shelf, off the Falls of the Amazon, when everyone knows that, right? What can they do when they're up there on that stage to say, this is what we're doing to make sure that the Amazon is not gonna be the victim of these or other kinds of economic development schemes?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">23:02</a>):</p> <p>And so many of the people that I work with are pressing hard, both publicly and quietly in the back halls of power in Brasilia and other Amazonian capitals to make sure there can be some kind of, okay, if you're gonna do this, or you're gonna continue with agriculture as well, 'cause we could talk about deforestation, right? We need to have some real commitments, some measured commitments, and a plan on how to get there when it comes to putting the brakes on deforestation, protecting human rights, protecting biodiversity, and really investing in the potential there that's in the Amazon.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">23:33</a>):</p> <p>That leads me to my next question, and let me make it a little more specific. So what would you like to see in a response to outcomes like this, right? Not just from the Brazilian government, but from other governments in the United Nations. From the United States for crying out loud, right?. So what would you like to see in terms of a, a response?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">23:56</a>):</p> <p>So I think that the United States and the Brazilian government and all governments, and for that matter, NGOs and consumers, need to pay a little bit more attention to what's going on in the Amazon. And that's where I think getting some of that pretty basic, but often lacking context out there about the Amazon, that it is as big as it is, that it is really diverse. I mean, I, I don't think I mentioned this, but this is a good time to sort of say there's 300 different languages spoken in the Amazon.</p> <p><strong>Speaker 2</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">24:27</a>):</p> <p>Really?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">24:28</a>):</p> <p>Yeah, yeah, 300 different Amerindian languages to say nothing of the, the colonial languages, Spanish and Portuguese and French and and English, right? And many, many different kinds of societies. There are 2 million indigenous people. There are roughly 6 million Quilombola or Maroon communities. These are descendants of enslaved people who escaped slavery to the Amazon. A lot of people don't appreciate this, that Brazil was actually the destination of most enslaved Africans who were forced to cross in the middle passage.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">25:00</a>):</p> <p>Is that for sugar primarily, or what was it?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">25:02</a>):</p> <p>For sugar. For sugar in the Northeast and for coffee in the south of the country, right? And so enslaved people's fleeing for freedom would go to a place that was relatively uninhabited and set up their own communities called Quilombos starting in the 1600s, right? They would trade with indigenous people. Sometimes they would fight with indigenous peoples. But there were cultures set up, uh, Afro-Brazilian cultures set up that are thoroughly Amazonian and are thoroughly unique with their own cultural, religious, and subsistence practices. You have riverside communities as well, who are the descendants of, I talked about the rubber boom after the rubber bust when there was no more money in the very laborious production of rubber in the Amazon. The communities that were brought there, stayed there and basically hunted and fished and had a relationship with the environment. That was a very sustainable and interesting one. And so the Amazon, in addition to being an urbanized place, is also a place of tremendous social and cultural diversity. And it's a place of poverty, it's a place of corruption, it's a place of international crime. It's a place where all of this is happening. And so, as with any place, I mean, think again, it's, it's the size of the lower 48. Is there one policy solution to all the problems in the lower 48 United States?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:20</a>):</p> <p>Of course not.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:21</a>):</p> <p>So there are many different things that we need to think about that most of the time when we're in international audience, we just think climate or biodiversity or forest.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:31</a>):</p> <p>Right. We just think, yeah, stop deforesting.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:34</a>):</p> <p>Uh, and we need to That's absolutely crucial.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:36</a>):</p> <p>No, I get it, I get it. But what I hear you saying is that it's more than that.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">26:39</a>):</p> <p>Yeah. It really is. And so real partnership, real engagement, government to government or corporate or consumers needs to appreciate that diversity of the Amazon, needs to appreciate that Amazonian people have a lot to contribute to the world in terms of being stewards of the environment, in terms of the knowledge that they have and that they can share with us. But that, that has to be done in an equitable way. It's not the case that we can go save the Amazon from the United States, you know, like parachuting in. Their capacity is, is actually there in the region, but also the forces that are leading to its destruction are there in the region. Not to make this too political, but if you're in the United States and you're in higher education like you and I are, chances are you may be invested in a TIAA retirement account. Full disclosure, I've done research on this. I have the receipts, but they're not the only ones. Okay. So don't get at me, TIAA, please. They've invested, and subsequently, once this came to light, they divested, but they were investing in ranch properties on recently deforested land on the edges of the Amazon. And so, in other words, they were good investments, these ranches were accruing in value. But I didn't know, and maybe you didn't know that your own retirement is vested in, you know, deforestation.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">28:01</a>):</p> <p>This is, this is the very first time I'm hearing about it. Wow.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">28:04</a>):</p> <p>People are concerned about meat. And they should be, because it was the case in the 1980s and 1990s that Brazil was exporting meat grown on deforested land to the United States. That has stopped. So it's actually not the case that we should go after McDonald's for selling Amazonian beef in the United States, 'cause they don't. But that beef is going to China, so the rest of the world is engaged in benefiting from the Amazon's destruction. But the rest of the world can also show up in solidarity with the people who are the true stewards of the land, who are the indigenous and traditional people.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">28:41</a>):</p> <p>The, the reality is, is the people who are there trying to survive as well, right?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">28:47</a>):</p> <p>That’s right, yep.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">28:47</a>):</p> <p>And it's hard to tell them, hey, make a change in your lifestyle now and suffer now, starve now so that somebody in America or some other country could have a better quality of life, 10, 20, 30 years from now, right? And that's what makes it hard and a little self-serving when we sit here.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">29:13</a>):</p> <p>Yeah, right. I'd agree with that. And, and that actually brings to mind something that you ask how the US or how outsiders could engage. And one thing that I think we can do is support sustainable commodity chains, right? So verifiable chains of value that begin in the Amazon, and maybe the product goes to the United States, maybe just goes to urban Brazil or urban Argentina. But the majority of that profit gets reinvested in the local community. It does not get captured by a middleman or by the urban retailer, but instead it really gets returned much like shade grown coffee, you might think of that, right. It's not a good example for the Amazon, but you probably have heard, and maybe you've enjoyed acai, the wonderful super fruit from the Amazon, right? Yeah. Well, it is really wonderful and it's, it's a great way for the Amazon to be exported all throughout the world. But 90% of the economic value chain of acai rests outside the Amazon. Only 10% rests in the actual cultivation of the Amazon. So that needs to be switched, right?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">30:22</a>):</p> <p>Not surprised by that, right.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">30:24</a>):</p> <p>Yeah. Yeah.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">30:25</a>):</p> <p>So talk to me a little bit about 鶹Ƶ's Institute for Sustainable Earth and how it's involved with what's going on in Amazonia.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">30:32</a>):</p> <p>So we, at the ISC, the Institute for a Sustainable Earth, are involved in a lot of different projects with partners in the region, but we're also supporting a lot of really talented 鶹Ƶ faculty who are working on a variety of issues. And really what we try to do, our kind of theory of the case that the ISE, is to bring together teams that are interdisciplinary to do research that can be of impact, be of consequence, right? And so along those lines, I actually had the privilege of convening a high-level international symposium, I guess is the best way to to think about it, back in January of 2023, where we went to the Smithsonian 鶹Ƶ School of Conservation up in front Royal, spent a couple days really hashing out the priorities for international interdisciplinary research that includes communities that valorizes and really platforms scientists working in the region at Brazilian Peruvian Bolivian institutions,</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">31:38</a>):</p> <p>right so that it's a real partnership as opposed to, uh, global northern institution coming in and making the discoveries or taking the credit. And it was really eye-opening. We came out, we published a, a paper, basically a white paper, laying out what some of the big priorities are, and also where we want some of the funding mechanisms to go, whether it's agency funding for research or corporate funding or foundation funding for conservation, how that needs to be thought about and maybe redistributed in the context of the tipping point in the context of we have 10 years to make as much progress as possible with halting deforestation, with supporting the human right and dignity of Amazonian peoples with building socio, bio economy value chains that return economic investment to the region without cutting down the forest.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">32:36</a>):</p> <p>So Tom Lovejoy coined that tipping point phrase in 2018. What progress have we made since then?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">32:44</a>):</p> <p>Overall, we have done a good job since 2018, getting the word out. People are tuned into the Amazon more today than they have been, I would say since the 1988, 1989 forest fires grabbed the headlines and made the cover of Time Magazine. Remember Time Magazine?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:01</a>):</p> <p>I do.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:01</a>):</p> <p>So that was, that was a big deal, right?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:03</a>):</p> <p>That that was. So for those of you who don't know who Tom Lovejoy is, he was a world-renowned faculty member and 鶹Ƶ professor. And he was studying, spent a good bit of his life studying biodiversity in the Amazon, and would often take groups of very wealthy and very famous individuals, whether were actors and actresses. And I saw what Leonardo DiCaprio and</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:32</a>):</p> <p>That's right. Mel Gibson.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:34</a>):</p> <p>Mel Gibson, Cameron Diaz, and all of those people, Angelina Jolie, he would take them right into the Amazon to learn what you and I are talking about right now.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:46</a>):</p> <p>That’s right. And so Tom's</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:47</a>):</p> <p>And to physically see the diversity and to see the wildlife that was there.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">33:53</a>):</p> <p>It makes such a difference to be up close and personal. And Tom knew that Tom understood the power of the forest and the power of making that connection with the wildlife and with the people of the Amazon. And so</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">34:06</a>):</p> <p>Are we still doing that now, or has that subsided with Tom's passing?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">34:10</a>):</p> <p>We are still actively engaged as a mason community with the Forest Fragments project that he was basically his brainchild and which is under the care of one of our partner organizations, the Amazonian Institute for Research. We actually have a graduate student that is funded through an ISC grant doing research right there where Tom Lovejoy took Angelina Jolie and, and Tom Cruise. We've had regular check-ins. We have one of our colleagues, Dr. David Luther, continues to do research there. And Tom's legacy really has been putting that part of the Amazon on the map. I think it's inspired a whole lot of consciousness raising in the English-speaking world about what's going on in the Amazon. And so what we're trying to do at the ISE is press that forward, really press that legacy forward.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">34:58</a>):</p> <p>I got to spend a lot of time with Tom before he passed, and just one of the nicest people on Earth. I hate it we lost him so soon.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">35:06</a>):</p> <p>He's a towering figure still, for some reason, the phrase science diplomat comes to mind, right, 'cause he was thoroughly a scientist.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">35:15</a>):</p> <p>You would routinely, when I would have these meetings at his home, which was extraordinarily modest, right? It's such a Tom Lovejoy home, right? But you would routinely have the ambassador from Brazil or some dignitary from some foreign country. Some industrial leader.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">35:34</a>):</p> <p>Or a World Bank president.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">35:36</a>):</p> <p>A world bank president. Yeah. You’d routinely have those individuals at his home as well.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">35:41</a>):</p> <p>And as you say, he was so modest, so humble, but so passionate and singularly focused that the story about the Amazon got out there. And in addition to being a, an incredible advocate and a bridger of dialogues and a diplomat, he was also a brilliant scientist. But also the whole debt for nature idea where impoverished nations would have some of their debt forgiven in exchange for conserving areas and keeping them pristine. That was his idea, right? So I mean, practical applications that have really left their mark on the world.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">36:17</a>):</p> <p>And it's better and it was better than writing the debt off, right?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">36:20</a>):</p> <p>That's right. That's right.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">36:21</a>):</p> <p>No, outstanding, outstanding. So talk to me a little bit about your research. What is it you do, what are your next steps?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">36:30</a>):</p> <p>Yeah, great. Thank you for that. I, as I said, I'm a cultural anthropologist and I've been working with native people and other traditional riverside communities who are really taking the lead in defending their own lands. The phrase for this is forest defenders, although it goes by lots of different names depending on the language you're speaking. But it entails physically defending land from loggers, from miners, from government agencies that might want to do something different with the land. And doing so not only through the physical demarcation, but through political alliances, with non-profits, with advocacy organizations, with researchers. My role specifically has been in helping the sociocultural and environmental mapping of these areas so that there can be some translation of traditional ecological knowledge that's associated with a landscape into a kind of language that maybe an ecologist or a politician might understand as well, right? And so it's really fascinating, the interplay between the kind of ethic of responsibility to lands and non-humans and waters that an indigenous person has, and how that lines up with how an ecologist sees the interaction and interdependence of species and the abiotic world and, uh, climate, et cetera.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">37:54</a>):</p> <p>And so I sit at that node where indigenous peoples are organizing for their own defense, facing an existential threat, but helping connect them with data, with science, with storytellers, so that they can tell those stories. And I'll give you an example. The people that I've been working with for the past 10 years now, the Munduruku, have been tremendously successful in demarcating lands that were slated for, to basically to go to the bottom of a lake, a reservoir, that was going to be behind the world's second largest dam. But they stood up and organized themselves and protected their sacred land, protected the relationships that they have with non-humans. And were able to shelve that dam and have become sort of a real inspiration to other indigenous and traditional societies throughout the Amazon, standing up to not just dams; and dams, we can have a debate about whether that's green power, whether it's not.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">38:47</a>):</p> <p>But what they were really standing up to do was to stand up and say, we're here. I’m moved by their courage and the courage of others like them who stand up. And we see it with indigenous peoples here in, in North America as well, who stand up and refuse to say we are in the past, who refuse that may be social expectation that whether it's assimilation or you've given up your culture, that the expectation that indigenous people are, are no longer among us. And the Munduruku and others in the Amazon are standing up and saying, we're here and we know how to steward these lands. We know how to make sure that the biogeochemical cycles and hydrological cycles continue. They wouldn't say it in those terms, but the terms that they would use would be about balance, reciprocity, relationship with the forces of life that course around us.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">39:43</a>):</p> <p>So the ecology and the traditional learning really go hand in hand. And then we get them to policy through making arguments, through communication strategies, through raising awareness. There's a big push that I'm part of, and that the ISE is part of and supporting to try to preserve 80% of the Amazon by 2025. Now that's next year, we're not quite there. 鶹Ƶ 50% of the Amazon is officially protected, whether you're talking about national forests or national parks or indigenous lands, about 20% of it is deforested and urbanized, which leaves 30% up for grabs. And we're not gonna get there next year through a stroke of the pen to lock up the other 30% of it. The task here is to raise awareness and to, even in the 30% that remains, make sure that whatever happens to it, it's sustainable. That we don't see it kind of a zero-sum game. It's either a park or a paved cityscape right. There can actually be sustainable, thriving, living landscapes with people in them whose economic models are not based on extraction and destruction.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">40:54</a>):</p> <p>How much time do you spend in Brazil?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">40:55</a>):</p> <p>Well, I've got two small kids, so not as much as I used to. I'm sure you know how that goes. ... 9-year-old twins actually. Boy, girl twins. They keep me busy. But I'm down there once or twice a year usually to check up on research and to engage my research partners, but also to create new opportunities for 鶹Ƶ. I mentioned we've got some great faculty here that are working. We've got, uh, David Luther who works on birds. We've got Louise Shelley in the Schar School who works on transnational criminal networks, which is a big thing in the Peruvian, Colombian, Brazilian Amazon. So I've been working with her a little bit on sort of how to have conversations about rule of law and cross-border diplomacy when it comes to not just drug trafficking, but get this trafficking of species, trafficking of huge fish, the pirarucu, which is a fish that can grow up to 50, 60 kilos that is caught in Brazil, and then brought into Colombia illegally to feed an urban frontier in Colombia and, and Peru.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">41:56</a>):</p> <p>So money laundering, drug trafficking species, et cetera, Louisehas been doing some really great work with the IUCN on traceability. You got Mike Gilmore, who's working in Peru on anti-road demonstrations and building a biocultural corridor with the Maijuna people. So I don't just go to Brazil, that's where most of my research is, but I'm also working with 鶹Ƶ faculty, trying to connect them better and, and really get their research out into the community and the community present in what we do here at 鶹Ƶ, so. I used to live in Brazil. I lived in Brazil for three years. So I have dear friends and colleagues and family, so I wish I could get there more, but we've got good stuff going on here too in Fairfax.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">42:39</a>):</p> <p>So your award-winning book, “Conjuring Property: Speculation and Environmental Futures in the Brazilian Amazon,” gives a good sense of the conflict between indigenous land rights and the corporate colonization of the land for agriculture, for ranching, for mining, and for deforestation that goes along with that. So can you talk a little bit about the book? Give us a sense of how this all plays out in actuality.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">43:10</a>):</p> <p>It's not unlike, if you think about sort of the 19th century story of the United States, this whole idea of manifest destiny, that the western part of the continent was for the taking of the proud, ambitious pioneer, usually white, the bro, the white man, right?</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">43:28</a>):</p> <p>The, the few, the bold.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">43:29</a>):</p> <p>Exactly, right. So Brazil, it's a very different country than the United States. I don't want to suggest that it's the, the same, but it is continental in scale and in size. And often it has at different key moments in its history likened itself to the United States. And so there was a kind of manifest destiny moment in the 1950s and 60s where the Brazilian government, which at the time was a dictatorship, encouraged people to leave the coast of Brazil and move into the Amazon, which in the popular imagination was the next frontier. It was empty. It was a place where you could go and make something of yourself. So there was a ton of propaganda. There was a ton of kind of social engineering to try to move the vast majority of the Brazilian population, which due to it being a colonial export colony, lived along the coast, lived along the places that were close to ports.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">44:25</a>):</p> <p>The average Brazilian thought of the Amazon as completely empty. The average Brazilian thought of it as a place where if I go and clear the forest, what I'm doing is improving the forest. What I'm doing is I'm making something where there is nothing, this terra nullius kind of idea. And so the book really traces how in the 21st century that idea continues to play out with both rich Brazilians and relatively impoverished Brazilians coming into the region and buying into and reproducing a kind of idea and ideology of the land belonging to them and their being no indigenous people there, and how they actually use land speculation and access to capital and access to political influence to undo some of the conservation and indigenous rights protections that were placed into law in the 1988 Brazilian constitution. So Brazil, as I mentioned, was in a dictatorship in the 1960s coming out of the dictatorship, had some of the most progressive environmental and human rights legislation and constitutional provisions of anywhere in the planet. But we've seen a backslide since then. And so the book really does explore that backslide and, and explore some of the social, political and environmental effects of this idea prevalent in Brazil, but again, I would say it's, it rhymes with what we have in the United States of there being no indigenous people there and it being the nation's goal to fill up this empty space with progress, and then how that motivated people's activities. It's the story that I tell in that book.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">46:08</a>):</p> <p>So, uh, you have a friend in Brazil, Alessandra Korap, I, I believe the name is, who is part of one of Brazil's indigenous nations, who you have quoted saying that the resistance from the indigenous population to those who would exploit the Amazon is a fight for all of us. I think I know where this is going. But talk to me about a fight for all of us and what exactly does fight mean?</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">46:37</a>):</p> <p>Alessandra Korap is an amazing person, so I absolutely want to answer your question, but if I can paint just a quick portrait of her. She stands all of maybe four foot one, but has the fight of a thousand people in her. She is 28 years old, a law student, basically went to law school from her village, grew up in a village in the middle of the recesses of the Amazon rainforest, has gone to law school to learn how to fight with the master's tools for the rights of her people. And so when she talks about all of us, what she means, I think, is really in three different registers. First is people like her, indigenous people who have been sidelined, who have been written out of existence, who have been bulldozed. Second, the entire world's population, because she understands, as her elders do, and as her brothers and sisters do, that the work that the Munduruku are doing and, and the other indigenous people are doing, not just in the Amazon, but throughout the world.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">47:47</a>):</p> <p>Here's another statistic. Indigenous people occupy and manage roughly 23, 24% of the world's terrestrial surface, where 80% of the world's biodiversity can be found; untold, name your metric of environmental service, whether it's clean water or wooden fiber, or carbon sequestration. So the work that indigenous people do, managing actively managing landscapes like the Amazon actually has a global benefit for all humans. So that's the other, all of us. The third all of us is non-human creatures, which for the Munduruku and many Amazonian people are literally relatives, literally brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins. And so there's that depth of compassion and empathy for the freshwater dolphins that you mentioned that literally baked or boiled alive in those warm waters. In Lago Tefe, she sees, Alessandro Korap, sees her advocacy on behalf of her people, on behalf of non-human relatives, and on behalf of all of us, even people, all of us humans, even people who might be her enemy. And so there's a kind of Gandhi-like, uh, stance or a Dr. King's stance to love even the person who would cut you down. That's what Alessandra Korap brings. It's not just me as a good friend and colleague of hers, but she received the, uh, RFK Leadership, Humanitarian Leadership Award two or three years ago. She's been to Switzerland, she's been to Germany, she's been to New York a couple times, really being an international sensation when it comes to advocating for the rights of her people and the rights of nature.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">49:23</a>):</p> <p>As we close, talk to me about your level of optimism that we can avoid the worst consequences of the Amazon Basin.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">49:31</a>):</p> <p>I am cautiously optimistic. My optimism meter goes up a point or two or several points. When I think about the indefatigable work of somebody like Alessandra Korap or other indigenous leaders who, unlike me, I, I have the luxury of being able to be in the thick of it but then come home, right? I can come home to Fairfax, I can come home to the United States. For Alessandra and for Ailton, the struggle's never ending, and they are positive. They are optimistic.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">50:02</a>):</p> <p>That's amazing.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">50:04</a>):</p> <p>They know that the world that they're giving to their children and their grandchildren is a better one, even though it is existentially threatened. So I think we all have to take our lead or, or take their lead and fall in place to do what we can to be innovative, to be a science diplomat in the model of a Tom Lovejoy, and to really try our best. I do think it's inevitable — here's just the caution part — I do think it's inevitable that 20, 30 years from now, the Amazon will be different because the world will be different, right? We've baked in a certain level of warming, we've baked in a certain level of anthropocenic and anthropogenic changes. But from the indigenous perspective, the world already ended in 1500 and has been ending in lots of different kinds of ways, and transforming in lots of different kinds of ways throughout all of that time. You know, 90% of the indigenous people who lived in the Amazon, there were 10 million there in 1500, 90% of 'em died, were gone by the time of 1600, right? So they know a lot about resilience, they know a lot about adaptation. They know a lot about bouncing back. And so I think we can take some inspiration from their lead in that respect, knowing though that the Amazon will be changing, we can nevertheless try to mitigate those changes and adapt to the new situation as it unfolds.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:22</a>):</p> <p>Well, let's hope we can stay on the right track</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:25</a>):</p> <p>Here. Here.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:25</a>):</p> <p>Jeremy Campbell, associate director for strategic engagement at 鶹Ƶ's Institute for Sustainable Earth. Thank you for a great conversation.</p> <p><strong>Jeremy Campbell&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:38</a>):</p> <p>Thank you, Dr. Washington. It was a pleasure.</p> <p><strong>Gregory Washington&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:40</a>):</p> <p>I am 鶹Ƶ President Gregory Washington saying, until next time, stay safe, 鶹Ƶ Nation.</p> <p><strong>Narrator&nbsp;</strong>(<a href="https://www.temi.com/editor/t/jqbhXtsATiHC0Qmjy4Gny69c6N3u_xiKJdI_FFtkv75TpzU4J_eJCwIsbdMoWwiY6XXkQTGIbYfU2Ghu2XLvjT4GXMQ?loadFrom=DocumentDeeplink">51:49</a>):</p> <p>If you like what you heard on this podcast, go to podcast.gmu.edu for more of Gregory Washington's conversations with the thought leaders, experts, and educators who take on the grand challenges facing our students, graduates, and higher education. 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Photo by Robert Ritchie</figcaption> </figure> <p>Ermagun, <span><span><span><span>assistant professor in the Department of&nbsp;<a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/geography-geoinformation-science"><span>Geography and Geoinformation Science</span></a> in 鶹Ƶ's College of Science, leads a National Science Foundation (NSF)-supported project titled “<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=2242647"><span>Snuff It Out: Extinguishing the Disparity of Access to Shelters for Disadvantaged Communities in Wildfire-Prone Areas</span></a>” to optimize response to the growing menace of wildfires.&nbsp;</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>The project will address shelter access when wildfires occur and has the potential to revolutionize disaster preparedness and response strategies, serving as a blueprint for fostering resilience in communities facing the escalating threat.</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>This collaboration, supported by a $397,365 NSF grant, focuses on disaster resilience in Lake County, California, which grapples with persistent wildfires. The comprehensive examination of shelter access differences, in a broader sense, also seeks to better comprehend the challenges faced by marginalized communities in California.&nbsp;</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>“Access to shelters is indispensable in transforming wildfires from potential tragedies into manageable emergencies,” said Ermagun. "The project involves the development of an interactive map, serving as a platform for both public officials and community members to plan and implement disaster resilience strategies.” </span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>Since 2015, wildfires have consumed more than 60% of the county, disproportionately impacting its disadvantaged residents. 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"Rooted in Lake County’s steadfast dedication to protecting public safety, the project seamlessly aligns with our overarching objective of enhancing community resilience as a whole. By providing crucial data for comprehensive planning and preparation, it seeks to reinforce our ability to respond effectively during times of crisis.”</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>Lester, expressing support for the initiative, highlighted its potential to make a significant societal impact. “This research project has potential widespread benefits to society by improving the resilience of disadvantaged communities and helping first responders with science-based tools to improve outcomes.” Lester’s enthusiasm underscores the project’s aim to empower both communities and first responders through evidence-based strategies.</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>Adding to the collective vision, Ermagun focused on the project’s commitment to addressing social inequalities, “We aim to address equity discrepancies and enhance community resilience faced by the residents during these ongoing challenges,” underscoring the project’s 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<div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/291" hreflang="en">College of Science</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/561" hreflang="en">Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/1161" hreflang="en">National Science Foundation</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/186" hreflang="en">Community Partners</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Tue, 05 Mar 2024 19:18:20 +0000 Colleen Rich 110976 at A $6 million NSF grant will translate research into practice to help local communities become climate-resilient /news/2024-01/6-million-nsf-grant-will-translate-research-practice-help-local-communities-become <span>A $6 million NSF grant will translate research into practice to help local communities become climate-resilient</span> <span><span>Colleen Rich</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-01-23T13:50:38-05:00" title="Tuesday, January 23, 2024 - 13:50">Tue, 01/23/2024 - 13:50</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span class="intro-text">鶹Ƶ scientists and partners will leverage their climate expertise and the university’s resources into broader societal implications, thanks to a $6 million grant from the National Science Foundation (NSF) that is going to translate research into practice to support the creation of climate-resilient communities across Virginia.</span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/2024-01/230413019.jpg" width="450" height="199" alt="Flood Hazards Lab tour" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>鶹Ƶ researcher Celso Ferreira (far right) and President Gregory Washington take Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger on a tour of 鶹Ƶ's Flood Hazards Research Lab. Photo by Evan Cantwell/Office of University Branding</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>The funding from the NSF’s Accelerating Research Translation (ART) program will allow 鶹Ƶ to expand its capabilities and capacity for translating research into real-world practical applications, with the creation of programming that will allow 鶹Ƶ faculty to serve communities across the commonwealth—especially within the state’s underserved regions—by co-producing science-based solutions that help them increase their resilience to climate change.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>The four-year cooperative agreement, </span></span></span><a href="https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=2331271&amp;HistoricalAwards=false"><span><span><span>“ART: Translating Research to Practice to Create Climate-Ready Communities Across Virginia,”</span></span></span></a><span><span><span> begins Feb. 1, and will allow 鶹Ƶ faculty and their nonprofit partner, the </span></span></span><a href="https://www.climatestrategies.us/"><span><span><span>Center for Climate Strategies</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, to work with local municipal governments and community partners to produce science-based solutions that will create sustainable, community resilience to the impacts of climate change. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>The project proposes two initial seed translational research projects, focusing on the co-production of solutions to mitigate flood hazards and reduce the impacts of urban heat on frontline communities. The latter comes on the heels of the world’s warmest year on record in 2023. Faculty will have the opportunity to propose additional translational research projects that address other climate impacts and response capabilities needed by Virginia communities to become climate-ready.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/2024-01/breakout1.jpg" width="450" height="310" alt="VCC breakout" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>鶹Ƶ’s Jeremy Campbell leads a discussion on local resiliency planning with staff from the Northern Virginia Regional Commission at a workshop held by the Virginia Climate Center in March 2023. Photo by VCC</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>“This really gives universities a chance to have an impact,” said </span></span></span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/leah-nichols/"><span><span><span>Leah Nichols</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, the project’s principal investigator and the executive director of 鶹Ƶ’s </span></span></span><a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>Institute for a Sustainable Earth</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>. “I think it’s going to help us start to institutionalize things that until now had been one-offs.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><a href="https://new.nsf.gov/news/nsf-announces-first-ever-art-awards"><span><span><span>鶹Ƶ was one of 18 schools to have been awarded an ART cooperative agreement</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>. The NSF overall investment of more than $100 million <span><span>will enable academic institutions to accelerate the pace and scale of translational research that will grow the nation's economy.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>“NSF endeavors to empower academic institutions to build the pathways and structures needed to speed and scale their research into products and services that benefit the nation,” said NSF Director Sethuraman Panchanathan. “The [ART program] identifies and champions institutions positioned to expand their research translation capacity by investing in activities essential to move results to practice.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>鶹Ƶ’s ART program leverages the model already created by the Virginia Climate Center (VCC)—which was initially established by a $2 million Community Project grant sponsored by Congressman Gerry Connolly (D-VA) – since its inception in 2022 for the necessary engagement infrastructure. That includes targeted outreach to individual community leaders and other key influencers in the hopes of creating the kind of collaborative relationships necessary to figure out what each community’s specific needs are.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>Other co-PIs on the 鶹Ƶ project include </span></span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/james-kinter"><span><span><span>Jim Kinter</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, a professor in the Climate Dynamics PhD Program and the director of both 鶹Ƶ’s </span></span></span><a href="http://cola.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies</span></span></span></a><span><span><span> within the </span></span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>College of Science</span></span></span></a><span><span><span> and the </span></span></span><a href="https://www.vaclimate.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>Virginia Climate Center</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>; </span></span></span><a href="https://cec.gmu.edu/profiles/cferrei3"><span><span><span>Celso Ferreira</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, an associate professor within 鶹Ƶ’s </span></span></span><a href="https://cec.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>College of Engineering and Computing</span></span></span></a><span><span><span> and the director of the </span></span></span><a href="https://fhrl.vse.gmu.edu/"><span><span><span>Flood Hazards Research Lab</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>; </span></span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/luis-ortiz"><span><span><span>Luis Ortiz</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, an assistant professor in the </span></span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/atmospheric-oceanic-earth-sciences"><span><span><span>Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Earth Sciences</span></span></span></a><span><span><span> within the College of Science; and </span></span></span><a href="https://www.climatestrategies.us/ccs-team/thomas-peterson"><span><span><span>Tom Peterson</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, the CEO of the Center for Climate Strategies. Other entities involved include </span></span></span><a href="https://mnassociatesinc.com/"><span><span><span>MN Associates Inc.</span></span></span></a><span><span><span>, which will monitor’s the program’s implementation and progress, and the University of Kentucky, which is serving as the project’s mentoring institution. Pairing awardees with mentor institutions that have an established translational research ecosystem is one of the unique features of the ART program. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>Current research that can be brought to bear on local community concerns includes, but is not limited to risk and vulnerability assessment, the development and deployment of new adaptive capacities through modeling, simulating, predicting and projecting climate variability and change, including downscaled global observational and modeling data sets, and the development of solutions to close vulnerability gaps by assessing needs for action and designing and evaluating new measures for local implementation.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>Other aims include supporting faculty who wish to be involved and the creation of specific academic programming, such as specialized courses on key climate issues, a new climate action minor, and a graduate certificate program, for future workforce development.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>“One very troubling aspect of the effects of climate change is that it has the biggest impact on underserved people and communities that are least able to address the issue,” Kinter said. “鶹Ƶ, being the largest public university in Virginia, owes it to the residents of the commonwealth to understand the risks it faces and create innovative solutions to increase community resilience.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>Virginia bore the brunt of nine climate disasters in 2018 and 2019 alone, resulting in $1.6 billion of negative economic impact, according to the Secretary of Natural and Historic Resources.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>Increasing community resilience to the effects of climate change is expected to help mitigate the impact and substantially reduce costs associated with damage from progressive climate change, extreme weather events, and other climate-driven effects, the researchers said.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span>“We’re really trying to understand what it is that [local communities] need from a scientific, technical, or research point of view through the lens of what is it that a university can provide,” Nichols said. “And once the climate-focused ART programs become well-established, we hope to extend this model to support the translation of research into practice in other sustainability domains as well.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_associated_people" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-associated-people"> <h2>In This 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Resilient."</em></p> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="a7c90bd3-97d4-4c11-8c9e-106a64750b39"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="/spirit-magazine"> <p class="cta__title">More from 鶹Ƶ Spirit Magazine <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:50:38 +0000 Colleen Rich 110326 at Limiting leaking leachate /news/2024-01/limiting-leaking-leachate <span>Limiting leaking leachate </span> <span><span>Nathan Kahl</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-01-22T12:42:27-05:00" title="Monday, January 22, 2024 - 12:42">Mon, 01/22/2024 - 12:42</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span class="intro-text">Most Americans don’t think much about their trash once they’ve taken it outside of their home, which is a testament to our country’s efficient garbage management system.</span> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Once that garbage truck rolls down the street, there’s a chance your trash is headed to one of the country’s roughly 3,000 operational landfills. And although it’s gone from your kitchen, the potential for that trash to then contaminate and harm people is something that must be carefully managed. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Kuo Tian, an assistant professor in the Sid and Reva Dewberry Department of Civil, Environmental, and Infrastructure Engineering at 鶹Ƶ, recently received a grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture to look at solid waste management service in rural locations, focusing on the potential health threats to groundwater in those areas. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Modern landfills </span></span><span>have a composite liner system to collect leachate, a liquid that starts as rainfall (or melted snow) and that pools at the bottom of the landfill after filtering through waste, </span>pulling out chemicals and pollutants from the material. Leachate is held by a <span>liner system, comprising a geomembrane—which is very resistant to puncture and is usually black in color because of carbon added for strength—on top of </span>a layer of clay or geosynthetic clay liner, which serves as a containment redundancy. <span>Small punctures in the membrane are inevitable, but leak detection techniques allow operators to examine the liner as it is put in place, identifying even tiny holes, which can be fixed before waste is layered on top. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/medium/public/2024-01/screen_shot_2024-01-22_at_12.49.04_pm.png?itok=Wf-izcwv" width="560" height="388" alt="Two people in a snowy landscape drop a measuring device into a sewer to test for continents. " loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>鶹Ƶ researcher Kuon Tian and doctoral student Benjamin Matthew Stark collect leachate for analysis at the Berkeley County Landfill in West Virginia. Photo provided</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Tian and his team will specifically examine the potential for </span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>PFAS leaking through the landfill liner system and contaminating nearby groundwater. PFAS—per- and polyfluorinated substances—are a group of chemicals used to make coatings for a variety of products and are commonly referred to as forever chemicals because they are persistent in the environment and in human bodies. Some evidence suggests they cause significant health problems. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>The researchers will test both the types and concentrations of PFAS in leachate. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>“We want to assess the PFAS concentration over a year, looking at precipitation conditions, age of the landfill, and other factors,” Tian said.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>The timing of the project is important, he says, because the EPA only recently created PFAS standards for drinking water, though there are currently no regulations to check PFAS concentrations in landfill leachates. Understanding how landfills may contribute to groundwater contamination will aid with landfill management moving forward. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>According to Tian, a quality liner is critical. “A good liner will keep the leachate from migrating to the groundwater for hundreds or thousands of years.” So even if high PFAS levels are found, they may not pose an immediate risk. Further, he is concerned about PFAS migration to groundwater in older landfills, built prior to the early 1990s, which only use clay liners or in some cases lack liners entirely. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>In addition to the research component, the grant contains funding for teaching elements. Once results from the research are confirmed, findings will be shared with local landfill operators and stakeholders. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="eeeab44a-9bf7-47cd-a196-a2fd3276114f" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="00380966-ab5b-499b-8c30-19ebec1c91cd" class="block block-layout-builder block-inline-blocktext"> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_associated_people" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-associated-people"> <h2>In This Story</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-associated-people field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">People Mentioned in This Story</div> <div 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href="/taxonomy/term/4396" hreflang="en">Civil Engineering</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18996" hreflang="en">Landfills</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18991" hreflang="en">Leachate</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/271" hreflang="en">Research</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/561" hreflang="en">Institute for a Sustainable Earth (ISE)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3071" hreflang="en">College of Engineering and Computing</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/19146" hreflang="en">CEC faculty research</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:42:27 +0000 Nathan Kahl 110501 at Bioblitz helps capture 鶹Ƶ’s biodiversity /news/2023-11/bioblitz-helps-capture-masons-biodiversity <span>Bioblitz helps capture 鶹Ƶ’s biodiversity</span> <span><span>Colleen Rich</span></span> <span><time datetime="2023-11-08T10:32:07-05:00" title="Wednesday, November 8, 2023 - 10:32">Wed, 11/08/2023 - 10:32</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span class="intro-text">鶹Ƶ students are running around the campuses taking pictures of the flora, fauna, and fungi with their smartphones—sometimes in the dark—to capture the university’s biodiversity. They are trying to record as many species as possible with a focus on endangered species.</span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/2023-11/231019901.jpg" width="400" height="267" alt="鶹Ƶ student Sarah J on Wilkins Plaza" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>鶹Ƶ student Sarah Jadlowski (right) helps out at a Bioblitz event on Wilkins Plaza.<br><br> <em>Photo by Cristian Torres/鶹Ƶ</em></figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span>It is all part of <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/gmu-fall-2023-bioblitz">Bioblitz 2023</a>, which is an assessment project that began during Sustainability Month in October and continues through Nov. 19. For the project, 鶹Ƶ is using the iNaturalist app, which helps streamline the documenting process and even drops a pin of the discovery on a campus map. </span></span></p> <p><span><span>So far, more than 800 observations have been made by 84 observers documenting 385 species. There are 155 “identifiers” in the app, subject matter experts and others who assist with confirming species identifications.</span></span></p> <p><span><span>“What's great about the iNaturalist app is you post a photo, and it suggests identifications,” said Doni Nolan, Greenhouse and Gardens program manager in the <a href="https://green.gmu.edu/">University Sustainability</a> office, who is leading the project. “Then [the app] also has folks confirm the identification to make it research-grade level.”</span></span></p> <p><span><span>Bioblitz is another way 鶹Ƶ is using its campuses as a <a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/malila/">Living Lab</a>. Working with Nolan are <a href="https://science.gmu.edu/academics/departments-units/environmental-science-policy/environmental-and-sustainability-studies">environmental and sustainability studies</a> majors Eden Anderson and Sarah Jadlowski.</span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2023-11/231102906.jpg?itok=kT5KOGg9" width="350" height="347" alt="paw paw for bioblitz" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>A student documents a persimmon tree in the Innovation Food Forest on the Fairfax Campus.&nbsp;<em>Photo by Cristian Torres/鶹Ƶ</em></figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span>Anderson has used the app before. A huge fan of fungi, she first started capturing mushroom species on campus for an Environmental Science and Policy class, EVPP 408 Mushrooms, Molds, and Society, she took a few semesters ago. </span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span>“It’s been a really good mushroom season,” said Anderson, referring to some of the rain the area received in October. In the days after a rain, Anderson takes “mushroom walks” around the Fairfax Campus to see what fungi may have popped up.</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span>“They can pop up quick, especially if it is humid,” said Anderson, who also forages mushrooms.</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span>Anderson says the most unusual Bioblitz observation so far are jack-o-lantern mushrooms (<em>omphalotus olearius</em>), which are bioluminescent—with gills that glow green in the dark—and very poisonous.</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span>Jadlowski is doing a moth survey of the Fairfax Campus as a project for her EVPP 480 Sustainability in Action class. She has attempted to lure moths out for a photo op in a variety of ways, including soaking a sheet in a diluted wine solution and hanging it near the 鶹Ƶ Pond with the hopes of capturing a moth “party.”</span></span></p> <p><span><span>The survey is an attempt to see which parts of campus moths prefer with a longer-term goal—building a moth garden. But Jadlowski said campus bats will be the ultimate beneficiaries of any garden as they consume moths and other insects for their diets, and they are vulnerable pollinators.</span></span></p> <p><span><span>Of 17 species of bats that have been recorded in Virginia, six are endangered, according to the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, with two of those species predicted to live in habitats near the Fairfax Campus. Protecting endangered species and their environments is a big part of the inventory. Nolan has made a list of Northern Virginia-specific endangered species they are keeping an eye out for, including the monarch butterfly. </span></span></p> <p><span><span><span>The biodiversity assessment also ties into 鶹Ƶ’s </span><a href="https://reports.aashe.org/institutions/george-mason-university-va/report/" target="_blank"><span>Sustainability Tracking, Assessment, and Rating System (STARS)</span></a><span> rating. In 2011, 鶹Ƶ began reporting its sustainability progress to the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education and earned a Silver rating. By 2014, 鶹Ƶ was the first university in Virginia to achieve a Gold STARS rating. Conducting the assessment helps 鶹Ƶ maintain its Gold rating and helps the university track the effectiveness of its sustainability efforts. </span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span>“We found monarch butterfly caterpillars on campus in several locations. Every year we have several patches in our gardens protected for them with the milkweed they prefer to eat,” said Nolan. “It was a focus [of Bioblitz] to identify endangered and vulnerable species and how the campus promotes those. So that was a big win for us.”</span></span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="b7a47ad5-7159-4f8a-a95b-1a3c12b3a1fc"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="/about/initiatives-and-priorities/sustainability-mason"> <p class="cta__title">Learn about Sustainability at 鶹Ƶ <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="3844868a-c279-4e86-ba47-ee5243cafc64"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="/news/2023-10/mason-living-lab"> <p class="cta__title">Read more about 鶹Ƶ as a Living Lab <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:text" data-inline-block-uuid="c012a469-f7f5-451b-8224-b646713044a8" class="block block-layout-builder 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field--label-hidden field__item"><hr> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><em>This content appears in the Spring 2024 print edition of the </em><strong><a href="/spirit-magazine" target="_blank" title="鶹Ƶ Spirit Magazine">鶹Ƶ Spirit Magazine</a></strong><em>.</em></p> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="d740f232-ee09-445e-b533-8fa93bc8972e"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="/spirit-magazine"> <p class="cta__title">More from 鶹Ƶ Spirit Magazine <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </p> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--30-70"> <div> </div> <div> </div> </div> Wed, 08 Nov 2023 15:32:07 +0000 Colleen Rich 109636 at 鶹Ƶ’s Virginia Climate Center delivers vital research knowledge and resources for 鶹Ƶ and the commonwealth /news/2023-10/masons-virginia-climate-center-delivers-vital-research-knowledge-and-resources-mason <span>鶹Ƶ’s Virginia Climate Center delivers vital research knowledge and resources for 鶹Ƶ and the commonwealth </span> <span><span>Colleen Rich</span></span> <span><time datetime="2023-10-12T14:50:56-04:00" title="Thursday, October 12, 2023 - 14:50">Thu, 10/12/2023 - 14:50</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--70-30"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span class="intro-text">The new <a href="https://www.vaclimate.gmu.edu/">Virginia Climate Center</a> (VCC) at 鶹Ƶ is leading research on tackling climate-related challenges, such as energy, vector-borne illnesses, and extreme weather and flooding in Northern Virginia and throughout the commonwealth. Funded through the <a href="https://www.noaa.gov/">National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration</a> (NOAA) and sponsored by U.S. Representative Gerry Connolly (D-VA), this two-year, congressionally directed community project seeks to increase Virginia’s resiliency to the impacts of climate changes and variability. </span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2023-10/ResilientVAConference.jpg?itok=-hQJgcEf" width="350" height="323" alt="Jim Kinter presenting at the Resilient Va Conference" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>鶹Ƶ researcher Jim Kinter presenting at the Resilient Virginia Conference. Photo by Sophia Whitaker/VCC</figcaption> </figure> <p class="paragraph"><span><span><span><span><span>“We have high hopes that the Virginia Climate Center will become the go-to resource for communities in the commonwealth to understand their climate risks and find more resilient ways to protect themselves from threats to human health, life, livelihood, and property,” said</span></span>&nbsp;<a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/james-kinter"><span>Jim Kinter</span></a><span><span>, a VCC principal investigator and director of the Center for&nbsp;</span></span><span>Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies&nbsp;<span>(COLA), a </span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/research/centers"><span>research center</span></a><span><span> within 鶹Ƶ’s&nbsp;</span></span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/" target="_blank"><span><span>College of Science</span></span></a><span><span>. </span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span>“鶹Ƶ’s VCC has a powerful vision for resilient communities that is catalyzed by the university, advanced through partnerships, and powered by community engagement,” said Andre Marshall, vice president of research, innovation, and economic impact.&nbsp;“This boundary-spanning center is bringing together academic disciplines, municipalities, and the business community to form a new university-based cooperative framework that not only addresses the challenge of resilience, but also establishes a community-engaged model for universities to tackle the grand challenges of our time.”</span></span></p> <p><span><span>One of VCC’s current projects is with the City of Alexandria staff to address extreme heat in the region through case studies and data collection of successful adaptation strategies in urban settings, such as cooling centers. 鶹Ƶ experts leading these tasks are <a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/luis-ortiz">Luis Ortiz</a>, <a href="/profiles/mmitcha2">Marybeth “MB” Mitcham</a>, <a href="https://communication.gmu.edu/people/emaibach">Ed Maibach</a>, and <a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/daniel-vecellio">Dan Vecellio</a>.</span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span>“[This project] will provide my students with the opportunity to explore and contribute to real-time work, as part of exploring public health community assessment and partnership strategies,” said Mitcham, </span></span><span><span>director of 鶹Ƶ’s online </span></span><a href="https://publichealth.gmu.edu/program/public-health-mph"><span>master of public health</span></a><span><span> (MPH) program and assistant professor in the </span></span><a href="https://gch.gmu.edu/"><span>Department of Global and Community Health</span></a><span><span>. “</span></span>Ultimately, our MPH students will help to improve the quality of life of local community members and help promote an awareness of the relationship between climate change and adverse health outcomes.”</span></span></p> <p><span><span>The VCC is also working closely with 鶹Ƶ’s <a href="https://cec.gmu.edu/">College of Engineering and Computing</a> and the <a href="https://www.novaregion.org/">Northern Virginia Regional Commission</a> (NVRC) to support the installation of flood sensors and the development of a real-time flood forecasting system for the region. Flooding and extreme weather have devastating impacts on our communities and Virginia’s infrastructure and economy. Studies by 鶹Ƶ researchers predict more intense and stronger storms in our region, stressing our infrastructure and likely increasing the impacts of extreme weather in our area.&nbsp; </span></span></p> <p><span><span><a href="https://science.gmu.edu/directory/p-ruess">P Ruess</a>, a postdoctoral research fellow on the VCC team, is investigating the relationship of road closures and water rescues. “I am excited to work closely with stakeholders in an advisory relationship reliant on direct and intentional stakeholder involvement,” Ruess said. </span></span></p> <p><span><span>"My work on the NVRC project holds the potential to greatly benefit our region, the Northern Virginia community, and my own education,” said Zeeshan Khalid, <span><span>a master’s student in </span></span><a href="https://volgenau.gmu.edu/program/data-analytics-engineering-ms"><span>data analytics engineering</span></a><span><span>. </span></span>“By proactively identifying and addressing road closures during flash floods, we aim to minimize disruption, reduce property losses, and enhance community safety. This project underscores 鶹Ƶ's commitment to contributing positively to the well-being of our community.” </span></span></p> <p class="paragraph"><span><span><span><span>Looking ahead, the VCC will remain in its partnerships with municipalities in Northern Virginia, including the NVRC, City of Fairfax, and Fairfax County, and will continue to work with them to address climate risks and codevelop adaptation solutions.</span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span>With the aid of funding from 鶹Ƶ’s Strategic Investment Fund, the VCC team in collaboration with 鶹Ƶ’s Local Climate Action Planning Initiative and the <a href="https://ise.gmu.edu/">Institute for a Sustainable Earth</a>, is expanding beyond Northern Virginia to aid Virginia’s rural communities in their climate resiliency and, now also, mitigation planning</span><span>.</span> </span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" 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